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    Re: Mr. van Asten
    From: Frank Reed
    Date: 2013 May 3, 08:41 -0700

    John,

    It's air navigation. The horizon is not visible unless you fly very low. And in any case they had normal Sun sights readily available. There was no need for sunrise/sunset sights, and there is ZERO evidence that Noonan ever tried them. Van Asten is simply an incompetent bullshit artist. His posts are jargon-coated trash.

    -FER

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