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    Re: Moby Dick Tales
    From: Brad Morris
    Date: 2019 Jan 10, 09:40 -0500
    Hello John

    You are correct in that Melville was on a whaler and according to wikipedia, also spent time on a merchant ship.   The indication was ~ 5 years at sea.  At no point was he ever a ship's officer, nor did he hold any licenses.  You cannot write about a technical subject if you were never exposed to it.

    I agree with you that the navigation suite was off limits to common sailors.

    As to the navigation itself.  The novel is set in the 1830's or 1840's, with the novel itself written in 1850-1.  The navigation would likely not have included lunars, as the era was mainly over by 1850.  For the enthusiasts, it is possible to include lunars if we assume Ahab to be an old school navigator.  The possibility also exists that Ahab was using a chronometer.  Whaling was a profitable industry but chronometers were expensive.  One can assume a wealthy ship owner furnishing such a device or pecuniously withholding one as an unnecessary expense.  It is a novel after all.  I think it most likely that the navigation would be a regime of latitude by meridian crossing and longitude by account (dead reckoning).  The Ethiopics (sailing directions) of the time all had tabular lists of features, like harbors, along with their latitude and longitude.  As does Bowditch and others.  The whalers were chasing whales, not navigating to minimize time, distance and cost.  

    In our 'modern' era, it seems crazy to sail the oceans without a crisp idea of exactly where we are.  Yet ships crossed oceans well before the longitude problem was resolved.  Yes, it more efficient and much safer with knowledge of longitude, but it is possible without it.

    Brad





    On Thu, Jan 10, 2019, 1:02 AM John D. Howard <NoReply_Howard@fer3.com wrote:

    Ed, you said:

    " Melvile only mentions Ahab in a navigation sense a couple of times. Seems strange to me. Yes, MD is about whales and one special one. But given the level of detail about the ship and crew and Ahab's behaviour, it's odd there was so little mention of how they know where they were going or searching."

    I seem to remember that Melvile was a crew member on a whale ship but I don't think he was a ship's officer.  So knowing about the working of the ship makes sence but navigation seems to be a close secret for the officers - you cannot mutiny with out knowing navigation!

    Others on the list know much more about the working of 1800 th C. ships than I so if wrong, please say so.

    John H.  41N  100W

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