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    Re: Missing messages (for Dan Hogan, etc.)
    From: Clive Sutherland
    Date: 2006 Feb 9, 08:37 -0000

    Dan, et al;
    This morning I received three messages from NAV-L, all from Ken Gebhart all
    from the same server. All of them were welcome and in no way exceptional.
    The first message was labelled  ***SPAM***  The last two were not.
    Reading the header information, the first message was given rating by
    something called  X-ME-Spamlevel of 'notspam' and X-ME- spamrating ' 70.15 '
    .  The last two were each designated 'notspam' ; 47.3 and 44.5 respectively.
    The first message was labelled ***spam*** on its title and would ordinarily
    have been invisibly dumped by my filter had I not been watching out for
    Somewhere between Nav-l and my ISP messages are being vetted and false
    reputations attached.
    ---- Original Message -----
    From: "Dan Hogan" 
    Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 11:37 PM
    Subject: Re: Missing messages (for Dan Hogan, etc.)
    >> [Original Message]
    >> From: George Huxtable 
    >> To: 
    >> Date: 2/8/2006 1:52:28 PM
    >> Subject: Missing messages (for Dan Hogan, etc.)
    > [SNIP of SPAM Problem]
    >> How can we deal with this? First, is it really a genuine problem,
    > affecting many Nav-L members?
    > I am having the same problem my Spam filter marks certain Nav-L messages
    > as
    > spam.
    >> Second, am I right in diagnosing it as a spam-filter problem?
    > Definitely a SPAM filter problem.
    >> Second, can we at least be sure when we are missing messages? Would it be
    > possible for Nav-L to
    >> attach a serial number to each message, incrementing by 1? Could this be
    > appended to the "subject"
    >> line, perhaps? Or even automatically inserted as the first line in the
    > text? Then, we could be quite
    >> sure about what's being missed. I am no expert on such matters, so have
    > no idea whether such a
    >> suggestion would be impossible to implement, or trivially easy.
    > Both. Most individual ISPs have their own Spam Filters and individual
    > computer users  have spam filters.
    > I would use only ONE program.
    > One need to know and understand how each Spam Filter operates. The are NOT
    > alike.
    >> One approach may be for me to ignore Nav-L incoming Email altogether, and
    > instead go to the website
    >> archive. Would that fix the problem?
    > That's doing it the hard way. Find out how your spam filters the messages
    > and how to set the ALLOW filter.
    > Also the problem can occur with the way the Email Client program produces
    > the message headings and addresses.
    > My ISP (Earthlink) has their own Spam, Virus, and Pop-Up programs I
    > switched to hem from Symantic.
    > I get 2-3 Nav-L messages in my Suspicious Message file a day. I OK them
    > for
    > incoming mail and they seem to not repeat.
    > But you need to check in the suspicious file of what ever Spam Program you
    > use. And don't set it to delete ALL Spam.
    > Use the built in filters of the program
    >> It seems that those damned spammers are destroying the usefulness of
    > emails. Must they win?
    > I hope not.
    > Dan Hogan
    > dhhogan1@earthlink.net
    > http://www.offsoundings.info/navl.htm

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