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    Re: [Nav-l] Missing messages
    From: Dan Hogan
    Date: 2006 Apr 14, 06:50 -0700

    MESSAGES
    Mailing List messages travel in "packets", there is no guarantee that the
    entire message will go as one packet. The packets travel via
    various internet servers to their destination address. They will be held at
    some point prior to delivery until the message packets are complete
     then delivered. A glitch ANY WHERE in the path will stop delivery. Most
    glitches happen in winter. Any kind of a voltage spike in the system
    as the message travels can alter the message's code and stop it, or send it
    into electron heaven.
    
    SUBSCRIBER REMOVAL FROM LIST
    When messages are not accepted at the intended mail address they are
    bounced back to the sender. In navigation-l it is the address listed
    as owner of the list. Who then determines what to do to correct the problem.
    
    Bounced subscribers are  and removed from the list for the following
    reasons.There will be a BOUNCE message for each message from
    Nav-L to the address.
            1. The addressee has a mailbox that has a quota and it is full (usually
    the FREE Email addresses).
            2. The addressee went on vacation closed his mailbox but did not signoff
    from navigation-l.
            3. There is a problem with the addressees' ISP and messages are bouncing.
            4. The addressee changes ISP or closes his address without signingoff from
    navigation-l
    
    The owner of the list is responsible for maintaining the list. No magic
    program exists that determines who should and should not be removed.
    I usually TRY to wait 5 days before deleting an address. But every message
    to that closed address from Nav-L generates a bounce message. And
    it takes time to keep track of each one.
    
    There is NO way for the an Email list or any server of knowing when
    someone, dies, change address, or fail to renew their ISP. The internet and
    the Email system can not generate information it can only disseminate it.
    
    If you want your messages handled in a special way, it is YOUR
    responsibility to set it up for your self. There is no magic clairvoyant
    program.
    
    It is the responsibility of the Navigation-L SUBSCRIBER to follow the
    protocol of the Email list to keep it running smoothly. That means
    READ and FOLLOW the !{at}%&X! Nav-L *WELCOME* message.
    
    *************************WELCOME********************************************
    ************
    
                           WELCOME TO NAVIGATION-L
                  THE NON-ELECTRONIC NAVIGATION EMAIL LIST
    
                    <>
    
    
    INTRODUCTION
    Navigation-L is a list primarily dedicated to the study and discussion of
    all methods and techniques of the art of non-electronic navigation. Our
    aim is to practice and study the traditional navigation techniques.
    All topics involving non-electronic navigation are acceptable. Notices
    about electronic navigation are acceptable, but prolonged discussions
    should be taken off line. The list is open to all levels of navigation
    knowledge from beginners to experts. We hope that you participate in the
    discussions on Navigation-L.
    
    
    HOW TO USE THE LIST
    For sale posts, among list subscribers, are permitted on an occasional
    basis, NOT from a commercial business.
    
    Post messages to navigation-l{at}listserv.webkahuna.com. Off topic
    non-navigation subjects should be taken offline.
    
    When quoting a message, quote sparingly!  Quote only enough to make your
    reply intelligible to those that may not have seen the original message.
    You don't need to quote an entire message to say "Me too". Naturally
    bathroom words are not acceptable among civilized people.
    
    PLEASE use text format in your messages not HTML.
    
    MESSAGE ATTACHMENTS -- DO NOT post any attachments to the list!
    
       View/send all message attachments from the Nav-L web page or via the
       addresses listed below.
    
        UPLOADS
           Attachments to messages should up-loaded via Email to
           navl{at}fisheriestrust.org  attn: Robert Gainer.
    
        VIEW
          Attachments may be viewed at:
          http://www.offsoundings.info/navl.htm/download/attachments.htm
    
    VACATIONS/HOLIDAYS
    
    When going on vacation/Holiday or leaving for an extended time set your
    Navigation-L mail to postpone or unsubscribe for the period of your absence.
    Mail addresses bouncing from the list for more than a week will be deleted
    from the list.
    
    We highly recommend that you read and save the acceptance message from
    listserv{at}listserv.webkahuna.com. It contains information on using the
    listserv.
    
    WORKING WITH THE LIST
    The Navigation-L subscription list access is limited to the list owner,
    and requires a password, so spam SHOULD be minimum.
    
    SUBSCRIBING to Navigation-L:
       Send a message, with no subject to -- listserv{at}listserv.webkahuna.com
    
           In the body of the message, with no signature --
               subscribe navigation-l Your Namehere
    
    UN-SUBSCRIBING from Navigation-L:
       Send a message, with no subject to -- listserv{at}listserv.webkahuna.com
    
             In the body of the message, with no subject & no signature --
               signoff navigation-l
    
    To post a message to the Navigation-L list:
        Send a message to -- navigation-l{at}listserv.webkahuna.com
    
    To temporarily postpone your mail:
            Send a message, with no subject to -- listserv{at}listserv.webkahuna.com
    
            In the body of the message, with no subject & no signature --
    
                SET Navigation-L NOMAIL
    
    To re-activate your mail:
                     Send a message to -- listserv{at}listserv.webkahuna.com
    
                    In the body of the message, with no subject & no signature --
    
                SET Navigation-L MAIL
    
    To receive messages in digest form:
                     Send a message to -- listserv{at}listserv.webkahuna.com
    
                    In the body of the message, with no subject & no signature --
    
                SET Navigation-L DIGest
    
    
    To cancel the digest mail:
                     Send a message to -- listserv{at}listserv.webkahuna.com
    
                    In the body of the message, with no subject & no signature --
    
                SET Navigation-L NODIGests
    
    
    To add "Nav-L" to the subject line of all incoming messages:
    
            Send a message to -- listserv{at}listserv.webkahuna.com
    
            In the body of the message, with no subject & no signature --
    
            SET Navigation-L subj
    
    
    ARCHIVES:
            The Navigation-l archive is located and owned by:
            http://www.i-DEADLINK-com/lists/navigation/
    
    DOWNLOADING FILES
    Downloadable files are available via the Navigation-l WEB PAGE,
    http://www.offsoundings.com/navl.htm
    
    Revised 04/14/2006
    
    Dan Hogan WA6PBY-List Owner
    dhhogan1---.com
    C27 "GACHA"
    
    
    

       
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