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    Re: Missing mailings.
    From: Wolfgang K�berer
    Date: 2006 Apr 11, 23:52 +0200

    Dear all,
    for someone like me - who is mostly lurking - the discussion during the last
    few days is most fascinating: like a sociological experiment in how to
    disturb a peaceful community by dropping the hint that things that they rely
    upon - smooth funtioning of things based on the belief that everything is
    functioning smoothly - may not be justified. It may really not have beeen
    functioning smoothly all the time but nobody has raised the question before
    and the few instances of things not really functioning 100% so far have not
    been noticed or disturbed anybody. Because we basically know: in the real
    world things do not function 100% - apart from the sun rising in the east
    every morning - so we have not been bothered by a few missing messages, we
    might have missed them anyway.
    But then somebody rings the bell - and everything changes. Causes are
    discussed, alternatives - a new list - are set up. Everybody then wonders
    what will happen, if a new list is set up (who is going to control it - who
    controlled the old list - who controlled the old archive - who is going to
    control the new archive, and so on). Nobody is discussing the things any
    more that this list presumably is all about: navigation. Instead messages to
    the "world" are being sent and responded to by real peaople like Pavlov's
    As I said: most interesting. A sociologist researching the interpersonal
    relationships in mailing lists in the early 21st century will have a ball
    some time in the future when he stumbles across this particular period in
    the navl archive.
    -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
    Von: Navigation Mailing List
    [mailto:NAVIGATION-L@LISTSERV.WEBKAHUNA.COM]Im Auftrag von George
    Gesendet: Dienstag, 11. April 2006 20:54
    Betreff: Missing mailings.
    In common with many others, I have received a copy of Frank Reed's latest
    test posting.
    Clearly, there are many Nav-l members waiting for news out there.
    So far, I have received neither of the two items "posted missing", referred
    to previously.
    One was the first posting in a thread "compass card with more than 360
    degrees"; the other with threadname "compute sun's position".
    Of course there may be others I have missed; if so, I am unlikely to find
    I have requested investigation into what are clearly serious distribution
    problems at Nav-l. I have provided Dan Hogan with header
    information for a message that took 4 months to get from the webkahuna host
    to my ISP (1 of 16). But there has been no response, so
    The good ship "Nav-l" continues to take on water, clearly holed below the
    waterline. Her captain appears reluctant to leave the poop
    and go below into the hold to investigate the damage, denying that there's
    anything amiss.
    I have to admit, somewhat reluctantly, that Frank may be right. It may make
    sense to jump ship, into the vessel that he has
    provided; imperfect though those arrangements may be.
    contact George Huxtable at george@huxtable.u-net.com
    or at +44 1865 820222 (from UK, 01865 820222)
    or at 1 Sandy Lane, Southmoor, Abingdon, Oxon OX13 5HX, UK.

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