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Re: Mirror problem
From: W F Jones
Date: 2006 May 5, 21:40 -0400
From: W F Jones
Date: 2006 May 5, 21:40 -0400
Alex I bought a USN Mark III sextant (actually two sextants) about fifteen years ago from a private source that had acquired them directly from the US government in an auction. The sextants had been disposed of by the US Army. I was told the Corps of Engineers actually used these on a training vessel located on one of the Great Lakes. I immediately knew one sextant had been dropped and the other appeared in good condition. As far as I know, the USN may still buy the same or similar sextants from various contracting companies (OEMs) willing to meet the navy's requirements. I am sure the demand is low and purchase history sparse. My sextant was actually manufactured by Scientific Instruments Inc (www.scientif.com). I think they are now out of the sextant business but still active in the survey instrument business. Oh, I paid way too much for the sextants then but they are rather rare and I had to have one. I have only heard about one or two for sale in the last ten years. Yes, a special optical sextant tester is used. It is a large and very impressive device manufactured by C. Plath (Germany). Doubtful that many testers have ever been constructed. There is a sketch in my sextant manual of one. I have heard that it is difficult to position the sextant correctly and some companies only want to test their own instruments. I checked with Scientific Instruments when I acquired the sextants about re-certification and they said they had a tester and could re-certify it. I recall it cost almost $200 US for the process. A replacement mirror set was about $60 then. Scientific Instruments estimated a couple of weeks but it took much longer - I assume it took them that long to verify that I legally owned the instrument. If you look at the arc scale, you will see that it is calibrated for -5 to +125 degrees. All marine navigators should know how to do a back-sight. Personally, I don't like high altitude or back-sights because they are simply more difficult to execute. Still, you may encounter a situation where you have no choice but to take a back-sight. Sometime, attempt to measure a body with an angle larger than 90 degrees? The body will be behind you! Total error across the Mark III arc scale is specified as less than 18 seconds. That means the difference between the most negative and most positive error recorded for all measured angles. The horizon and index filter specifications may interest some list members. I will list the transmissivity factor (?) below. I don't like the idea of using only the filters with a laser. Seems to me, you should use a laser eye protector (like glasses or googles) in combination with the filters. I am very concerned about the telescope in the optical path however. Do consult an expert on this matter first before using one. I was interested for awhile in constructing an artificial star light source. I just couldn't seem to get it right and never found knowledgeable references to support the effort either. Horizon Filters No. 2 0.012% No. 3 0.24% No. 4 6.3% Index Filter No. 1 0.0008% No. 2 0.012% No. 3 0.24% No. 4 6.3% I apologize if I strayed off course a little more than necessary. I envy your mathematical abilities and most of all, endless patience with the diversified crew we make up. Thanks for sharing your interesting pursuits with the list. Frank J. Rochester, NY Date sent: Fri, 5 May 2006 13:44:42 -0400 Send reply to: Navigation Mailing ListFrom: Alexandre E Eremenko Subject: Re: [NavList 120] Mirror problem To: NAVIGATION-L@LISTSERV.WEBKAHUNA.COM Dear Frank J., Your message contains a lot of interesting information, besides the mirror story. What is "Original Equipment Manufacturer"? What "metal sextant" did you send to them? Your message makes an impression that they can make or alter a sextant on your request. Do they have special equipment for testing sextants? You also mention back-sights... I've never heard of a sextant equiped for taking back sights since the beginning of XIX century! Could you tell us more about your sextant and OEM? Alex