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Re: Measuring Dip in the 18th Century
From: Alexandre Eremenko
Date: 2013 Dec 21, 21:41 -0500
From: Alexandre Eremenko
Date: 2013 Dec 21, 21:41 -0500
For the dip, you don't have to take any measurements, Dip (under normal conditions) it is a simple geometric problem. Such dip tables could (in principle) be made by any mathematician in 2-nd century BC. Refraction is another matter... Alex. > I'm not so sure how tricky it was to make those measurements because they > sure got accurate results. I am absolutely blown away by the accuracy of > the refraction and the dip tables in the 1799 edition of the New Practical > Navigator, edited by Bowditch. I compared a sample of the values in the > 1799 tables with the modern tables and only rarely did the discrepancy > exceed six seconds of arc, 0.1'. See attachments. > > gl > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Marcel Tschudin> To: garylapook---.net > Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 1:24 AM > Subject: [NavList] Measuring Dip in the 18th Century > > > > > ________________________________ > Andy Young draw my attention to the following publication: > > Huddart Joseph (1797): Observations on Horizontal Refractions Which Affect > the Appearance of Terrestrial Objects, and the Dip, or Depression of the > Horizon of the Sea. Philosophical Transactions of the Royal Society of > London, Vol. 87, (1797), pp. 29-42 > > a pdf copy of it can be obtained from JSTOR > http://www.jstor.org/betasearch?Query=Huddart+joseph&fq=py:[1796+TO+1798] > > Andy wrote: "Huddart managed to measure the altitudes of the Sun's limbs > above both the northern and southern horizons around noon, interpolating > to find the apparent altitudes exactly at culmination. This was evidently > a difficult and tricky measurement to carry out, especially with the > rather primitive instrumentation available to him; he comments that the > instrumental limitations prevent it from being done except in a restricted > zone of latitude, and that it can't be done near the equator because of > the rapid change in azimuth as the Sun passes near the zenith. > Nevertheless, he apparently was able to get useful information from this > work." > > He thought that this publication may eventually also be of interest to > some members of NavList. > > Marcel > > : http://fer3.com/arc/m2.aspx?i=125858 > Attached File: http://fer3.com/arc/img/125869.1799 refraction and dip > tables.jpg > > Attached File: http://fer3.com/arc/img/125869.img_0002.jpg > > Attached File: http://fer3.com/arc/img/125869.img_0001.jpg > > > : http://fer3.com/arc/m2.aspx?i=125869 > > > >