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    Re: Massachusetts schooners, 1750s
    From: Hewitt Schlereth
    Date: 2008 Dec 22, 10:26 -0400

    Hi George -
    
    I'm virtually certain you've already checked Howard Irving Chapelle,
    but just in case... He wrote a number of books on American working
    schooners and as I recall them, they were all minutely detailed.
    
    Hewitt
    
    On 12/21/08, George Huxtable  wrote:
    >
    >  I wonder if any Navlist member knows about this, or knows where I can find
    >  information. It's not really a navigational question, though.
    >
    >  It relates to the years when James Cook was surveying Newfoundland, in 1763
    >  to 1767, before he became famous.
    >
    >  In 1763, the British Admiralty bought a schooner for the purpose, which they
    >  named "Grenville". John Robson's website, at
    >  http://pages.quicksilver.net.nz/jcr/ships , tells me that she was originally
    >  the "Sally", which had been built in 1754 in Massachusetts. She was 55 feet,
    >  69 tons. Apparently, the Admiralty thought it a useful design, because
    >  several similar vessels were purchased around that time.
    >
    >  Cook made Atlantic passages back to England for each Winter, regular as
    >  clockwork. It's those passages I am taking an interest in, rather than the
    >  survey work itself.
    >
    >  I would like to discover a bit more about those schooners, particularly
    >  their rig. It would be interesting to discover how the mainmast was
    >  supported from forwards: whether it had a mainstay coming down to deck level
    >  near the foot of the foremast. And if so, how clashes were avoided with the
    >  gaff foresail, whether  it was loose-footed or was stretched by a boom. I
    >  wonder if that information exists.
    >
    >  Cook didn't retain that rig for long, because on her first winter in London,
    >  Grenville was rerigged as a brig.
    >
    >  Sally, a schooner, may perhaps have hailed from Marblehead,  but I would
    >  like to emphasise that am NOT seeking information about the famous
    >  Marblehead schooner yachts of a much later era, beautiful objects though
    >  those rich man't playthings may have been. It's the trading / fishing
    >  vessels, the working craft of the mid 18th century, that I'm following up.
    >
    >  George.
    >
    >  contact George Huxtable, at  george@hux.me.uk
    >  or at +44 1865 820222 (from UK, 01865 820222)
    >  or at 1 Sandy Lane, Southmoor, Abingdon, Oxon OX13 5HX, UK.
    >
    >
    >  >
    >
    
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