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    Re: Massachusetts schooners, 1750s
    From: George Huxtable
    Date: 2008 Dec 24, 11:41 -0000

    Thanks to those who have pointed me to Karl Marquardt's "The Global
    Schooner".  I had already planned to consult it in the library, having a
    high opinion of Marquardt, based on his analysis and superb drewings of
    "Endeavour", in the "Anatomy of the Ship" series.
    
    Dave Walden mentions that it's now at very reduced price from Postscript
    Books, in London, a firm which specialises in "remaindered" books. I've just
    bought from them a new copy of "Astrolabes at Greenwich" at a quarter of its
    published price, and found them to be most efficient.
    
    Has any listmember bought or read "|The Global Schooner", I wonder? I would
    be interested in opinions about it.
    
    Frank singles out the drawing on page 33 as being close to what I was
    seeking; and indeed it is. It's interesting that the rig shown there avoids
    any conflict between gaff foresail and mainstay, by staying the head of the
    mainmast from forward by means of a triatic stay to the head of the
    foremast, as we have just discussed.
    
    But the sort of rig that puzzles me is cell shown on the cover of "The
    Global Schooner". I provide an attachment, but it's only a thumbnail, and
    doesn't show the details sufficiently.
    
    Frank provided a useful link to -
    http://books.google.com/books?id=yA8QBVhS-lMC
    
    and that will take you to the cover-picture in decent detail. It's a
    dramatic view of a schooner, hard on the wind and somewhat over-canvassed,
    which clearly shows the very point that's been worrying me. It shows a
    mainstay, coming down and forward from the head of the mainmast, then
    passing close to starboard of the foremast, just a foot or two above the
    tack of the gaff foresail. That foresail is hooped to the foremast, which
    was usual, and the mainstay appers to pass close below the lowest hoop,
    between mast and sail, where it vanishes from sight. It's not possible to
    see whether the foresail is boomed or loose-footed.
    
    The only way that I can imagine going about, with such a rig, is for the
    foresail to be brailed up and over the mainstay, as the vessel  passes
    through the eye of the wind. Can anyone see an alternative? Although that
    might be possible with a loose-footed foresail, I can't see it as being
    practicable if that sail is bent to a boom.
    
    Just imagine yourself as a deckhand on that schooner, when the call goes
    out- "Ready About". What happens next?
    
    So I'm doubtful if the combination of a mainstay going to deck-level, and a
    boomed foresail, as shown in the picture of Baltick, is viable on a
    schooner. Any other views?
    
    George.
    
    contact George Huxtable, at  george@hux.me.uk
    or at +44 1865 820222 (from UK, 01865 820222)
    or at 1 Sandy Lane, Southmoor, Abingdon, Oxon OX13 5HX, UK.
    
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