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    Re: Massachusetts schooners, 1750s
    From: George Huxtable
    Date: 2008 Dec 22, 17:26 -0000

    Thanks to Hewitt for a useful suggestion. The only one of Chappelle's books
    I have on my shelves is his "Search for speed under sail", which isn't
    appropriate to my quest. But I'm aware of his reputation.
    
    Chappelle also wrote a book about American fishing schooners, which might
    well be worth consulting, although its stated date range is 1825 - 1935, so
    it starts 70 years after the vessel I'm interested in. He also wrote, in
    1935, "The history of American sailing ships", and I wonder if that goes
    back to the small schooners of colonial days. Does anyone have a copy, who
    can tell me a few words about it? If it seems useful, I can read it in the
    Bodleian library.
    
    George.
    
    contact George Huxtable, at  george@hux.me.uk
    or at +44 1865 820222 (from UK, 01865 820222)
    or at 1 Sandy Lane, Southmoor, Abingdon, Oxon OX13 5HX, UK.
    
    
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Hewitt Schlereth" 
    To: 
    Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 2:26 PM
    Subject: [NavList 6797] Re: Massachusetts schooners, 1750s
    
    
    |
    | Hi George -
    |
    | I'm virtually certain you've already checked Howard Irving Chapelle,
    | but just in case... He wrote a number of books on American working
    | schooners and as I recall them, they were all minutely detailed.
    |
    | Hewitt
    |
    | On 12/21/08, George Huxtable  wrote:
    | >
    | >  I wonder if any Navlist member knows about this, or knows where I can
    find
    | >  information. It's not really a navigational question, though.
    | >
    | >  It relates to the years when James Cook was surveying Newfoundland, in
    1763
    | >  to 1767, before he became famous.
    | >
    | >  In 1763, the British Admiralty bought a schooner for the purpose, which
    they
    | >  named "Grenville". John Robson's website, at
    | >  http://pages.quicksilver.net.nz/jcr/ships , tells me that she was
    originally
    | >  the "Sally", which had been built in 1754 in Massachusetts. She was 55
    feet,
    | >  69 tons. Apparently, the Admiralty thought it a useful design, because
    | >  several similar vessels were purchased around that time.
    | >
    | >  Cook made Atlantic passages back to England for each Winter, regular as
    | >  clockwork. It's those passages I am taking an interest in, rather than
    the
    | >  survey work itself.
    | >
    | >  I would like to discover a bit more about those schooners, particularly
    | >  their rig. It would be interesting to discover how the mainmast was
    | >  supported from forwards: whether it had a mainstay coming down to deck
    level
    | >  near the foot of the foremast. And if so, how clashes were avoided with
    the
    | >  gaff foresail, whether  it was loose-footed or was stretched by a boom.
    I
    | >  wonder if that information exists.
    | >
    | >  Cook didn't retain that rig for long, because on her first winter in
    London,
    | >  Grenville was rerigged as a brig.
    | >
    | >  Sally, a schooner, may perhaps have hailed from Marblehead,  but I
    would
    | >  like to emphasise that am NOT seeking information about the famous
    | >  Marblehead schooner yachts of a much later era, beautiful objects
    though
    | >  those rich man't playthings may have been. It's the trading / fishing
    | >  vessels, the working craft of the mid 18th century, that I'm following
    up.
    | >
    | >  George.
    | >
    | >  contact George Huxtable, at  george@hux.me.uk
    | >  or at +44 1865 820222 (from UK, 01865 820222)
    | >  or at 1 Sandy Lane, Southmoor, Abingdon, Oxon OX13 5HX, UK.
    | >
    | >
    | >  >
    | >
    |
    | |
    |
    |
    
    
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