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Re: Luni-Solar Distance
From: George Huxtable
Date: 2010 Oct 19, 16:23 +0100
From: George Huxtable
Date: 2010 Oct 19, 16:23 +0100
I had written, about the iteration process called for, when calculating rather than measuring, the altitudes of the bodies involved in a lunar distance observation, "You can see that the iteration is converging, but painfully slowly, improving by approximately a factor of two at each step". -------- And Douglas asked whether it always converged, and if so, how quickly? As far as I understand what's going on, yes, it always converges. My example was deliberately chosen to show a situation that's worst-case, or nearly so, and in that worst-case, the resulting longititude error more-or-less halves at each iteration. That can happen over a rather wide range of possible geometries; it's not a particularly unusual state of affairs. It can be worst with a high Moon, seen from the Tropics. In many other plausible geometries, the end-result is little affected by the altitudes, in which case a single iteration might well suffice. We've discussed this matter on the list before, but I can't put my finger on the postings. As I remember, Frank expressed the view that reiteration would seldom if ever be necessary. If I have it right, that view seems to be in some doubt.. Dougles asked further- "I might add: can the iteration convergence be improved with a correction factor as with the second method in Meeus's Kepler iteration method?" After the initial calculation, and one reiteration, one can deduce the sensitivity of the lunar distance to changes in assumed longitude, which then allows the end-result to be predicted without further iteration. ============= The culprit in this seems to be our old friend, which we dubbed "parallactic retardation", which has been thrashed out on the list in the past. It can result in the apparent lunar distance changing at only about-half of the rate of the true lunar distance, 6' per hour instead of 12. George. contact George Huxtable, at george@hux.me.uk or at +44 1865 820222 (from UK, 01865 820222) or at 1 Sandy Lane, Southmoor, Abingdon, Oxon OX13 5HX, UK.