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    Re: Lunar Occulation in Practice at Sea
    From: Frank Reed
    Date: 2009 Feb 4, 21:40 -0800

    Brad M., you wrote:
    "Here is a clear case of occultations in use at sea.  While his use of the 
    small telescope may bring the claim that the occulatation was not at sea, the 
    short answer is that the Endurance was trapped in the ice during this time.  
    The position within the Weddell Sea, albeit it frozen in the pack ice, still 
    qualifies as "at sea"!"
    
    Ha! Yeah, that's funny. :-) I don't think too many mariners stuck in place in 
    pack ice would call themselves 'at sea' but technically they are. Some of 
    those 19th century whalers might have found themselves in the same 
    circumstances, but I haven't seen any cases of occultations observed on 
    ordinary commercial vessels.
    
    Explorers and scientific expeditions, incidentally, are exactly the sort of 
    people who would have used occultations since they are likely to carry good 
    telescopes, likely to include people with astronomical observation and 
    calculation skills on their teams, and likely to be able to set up good 
    observing sites on solid ground (or solid ice!). If you're interested in this 
    particular case, you could probably find out the reduction method that was 
    used either by digging around in the original documents or you might be able 
    to make a very good educated guess by researching the background of 
    Shackleton's astronomer.
    
    Occultations could also be used by a modern "navigator" (I use the term in 
    quotes simply because most people would be doing this for the fun of it or 
    perhaps to win points in a sailing race rather than for navigation in the 
    literal sense). You could use a few occultations to check a chronometer, as 
    they did historically. Or... you could also use a couple of occultations at 
    known GMT to get a real position fix. This is fundamentally the same problem 
    as the "position fix by lunar distances" that Dave and Andres and I (and a 
    few others --sorry if I've left anyone out who is enthusiastic about this 
    method) have been talking about for a couple of years. In fact, for a 
    land-based observer, it could yield a very accurate fix, comparable to a 
    standard celestial fix. Since decent models of the lunar limb are available, 
    and better ones should become available very soon, the reduction can be much 
    more accurate than it was historically. How good would your position fix be 
    if you could time and reduce occultations with an error on the order of half 
    a second or better? A big advantage of this method is that you don't need a 
    visible horizon or a sextant. An ordinary spotting scope would probably 
    suffice. On the other hand, unless you're prepared for some really laborious 
    paper work, it also calls for a computing device of some sort. This method 
    would be largely useless "at sea" unless you have some sort of stabilization 
    system or perhaps a digital camera recording continuously. And needless to 
    say, it would only work now and then, when the Moon is well-placed for 
    observing and when there happen to be stars conveniently placed for 
    occultation observations.
    
    -FER
    www.HistoricalAtlas.com/lunars
    
    
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