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Re: Lost people DO follow circles, says research
From: George Huxtable
Date: 2009 Aug 22, 14:20 +0100
From: George Huxtable
Date: 2009 Aug 22, 14:20 +0100
This notion has generated much attention, under the name of "South pointing chariot", as can be seen by googling that term. A lot of nonsense has been talked about it. It appears to have been a Chinese invention, a sort of Executive Toy, to look impressive at military parades. It attached a form of differential gear between the two wheels, to integrate the difference between their numbers of turns, and rotate a pointer accordingly, to point in a constant direction. . As for "aiding travellers crossing the Gobi desert", that's complete nonsense. It demands exact equality beteen the dimensions of the wheels. If their radii differ by only 1 part in 1000, then after just a mile of travel, the pointer will have rotated through all the points of the compass. Each time one wheel, more than the other, sinks into a sandy surface, a corresponding offset error occurs in the perceived direction. It's a nice story, but completely impractical. The sort of thing that builds up into a popular legend. ============================= As for travellers failing to walk in a straight line if they are deprived of any sensory feedback of direction, why should occasion any surprise? George. contact George Huxtable, at george@hux.me.uk or at +44 1865 820222 (from UK, 01865 820222) or at 1 Sandy Lane, Southmoor, Abingdon, Oxon OX13 5HX, UK. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Philip Lange"To: Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 11:56 AM Subject: [NavList 9598] Re: Lost people DO follow circles, says research | Perhaps this may be of help? | | | Source: History of Tribology by Duncan Dowson | | In History of Tribology Dowson shows a picture of a Chinese cart | or chariot with a wooden figure on top. The figure was connect | to a set of gears so that it always pointed in a constant | direction. This cart aided Chinese travelers crossing the Gobi | desert where it was difficult to avoid becoming lost. | | Found on: http://tribologynews.wordpress.com//category/history/ | Philip | | On Fri, 2009-08-21 at 20:17 -0700, James N Wilson wrote: | | > This somehow reminds me of learning some years ago about an ancient | > method to maintain orientation while crossing the Gobi desert. | > Primitive | > bevel gears were somehow used on a cart to maintain the orientation of | > a | > statue on a vertical axis. As long as both wheels rotated the same | > amount, the statue pointed straight ahead. But if one rotated more | > than | > the other, the statue pointed in a different direction, indicating | > that | > the cart had turned. | > | > Alas, I can't find anything about this now, and my old references have | > been lost. But it is interesting, even if I can't now figure out how | > it | > was done. I do remember that it was ingeniously simple. | > | > I'm remembering a bit more. This was offered to me as the first use of | > the bevel gear principle, and it was before the internet, so what I | > saw | > was hard copy. I wish I had it now. | > | > Jim Wilson | > ___________________________ | | | | --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ NavList message boards: www.fer3.com/arc Or post by email to: NavList@fer3.com To , email NavList-@fer3.com -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---