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    Re: Longitude by Sunset
    From: Alexandre Eremenko
    Date: 2012 May 6, 21:32 -0400

    Gred,
    
    I am very well familiar with Bris sextant:-)
    I bought the last one from Cassens Plath, and Bill B made
    truly professional pictures of it:
    www.math.purdue.edu/~eremenko/Navigation/Sextants/Bris
    But I don't think it will help much.
    
    First, it is designed for Sun, has dark glass, and there is no way
    to see the Moon through it.
    One can make another one, of course, with clear glasses, specially
    for the  Moon.
    
    But then the advantage that you mention, "one does not need to know
    the angle" disappeares.
    And even theoretically, one does need to know the angles.
    (When timing the settings of the Sun/Moon, the angle is known:
    it is 0, or more precisely, the refraction angle).
    
    I actually do not know how accurate Bris can be.
    I expect not better than 1'-2'. This is not enough.
    
    I have to confess that I have not really graduated my Bris:-(
    For this one has to spend 5-6 mornings or evenings
    (sunrise to noon, or noon to sunset)
    on a sea shore, with excellent weather, and good horizon
    unobscured in a given
    direction (W or E). And with my Bris with me:-)
    I never had such opportunity. (Or maybe had but missed it).
    
    I said 5-6 because one certainly needs averaging.
    I made several observations many years ago, but not enough to graduate
    the full "scale".
    
    
    
    Alex
    
    On Sun, 6 May 2012, Greg Rudzinski wrote:
    
    >
    > Alex,
    >
    > Are you familiar with the Bris type sextant ?
    A simple version of one of these made from two microscope
    slides will raise the body above the horizon enough
    to clear any clouds.
    Knowledge of the angle is not needed as long as the same
    device is used to time the horizon set for the Sun and Moon.
    >
    > Greg Rudzinski
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