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Re: List Status: we've moved successfully...
From: Craig Z
Date: 2006 May 18, 18:38 -0500
Gents,
one that that I haven't seen mentioned is getting a dump of the old
mailing list.
Even if it is a few GB of data I'm sure some of us would be happy to
store it. Multiple copies = data security.
So, is it possible?
On 5/19/06, Fred Hebard <Fred@acf.org> wrote:
>
> I agree thoroughly here. I was suggesting that Google might want to
> update their software to provide the features of the Nav-L archive
> for all their lists, and that Frank might want to contact them to
> suggest this. This point is moot, however, if we can't migrate the
> old archives to Google, and if they don't maintain the archive going
> back to day one. Some list archives migrate off of HTML severs,
> which is very inconvenient.
>
> The other point is that I believe the existing Nav-L archive should
> be a current member of the Google list so that it is kept up to
> date. Additionally, I believe the current archive of the Google list
> should be added to the Nav-L archive; perhaps the dates could be
> spoofed.
>
> Frank suggested he might be rolling his own archive. This might not
> be too good as who would maintain the codebase, and archive, were he
> no longer here? Or Frank may be looking into other archives.
>
> Fred
>
> On May 18, 2006, at 2:17 PM, Peter Fogg wrote:
>
> > Have looked at Google's "advanced search". While it may be
> > impressive I'm not sure it offers much more than was available
> > through Google or its competitors with respect to the old archive.
> > More to the point, it doesn't offer what we had, as pointed out by
> > Alexandre:
> > "The Nav-L archiv permits you to see all messages
> > for a given month, and to sort them in several ways:"
> > It seems I'm not the only one who finds that simple list by
> > cronological order, modifiable, a very useful feature.
> >
> > On 5/19/06, Greg R. <gregr_ingest@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Peter wrote:
> >
> > > Am not sure how amenable Google is going to be about setting up an
> > > archive for our requirements. Would it be possible to set up an
> > > archive that functions as well as the one we have been using?
> >
> > If this group works the same as other Google Groups that I've used
> > (some of them that I've setup myself for various discussion/project
> > groups), there's an extensive search engine already built in. Try this
> > URL and see if it'll work for what you want:
> > http://groups.google.com/advanced_search?q=&.
> >
> > Hope that helps.
> >
> > --
> > GregR
> >
> > --- Peter Fogg < peter.fogg@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Am not sure how amenable Google is going to be about setting up an
> > > archive
> > > for our requirements. Would it be possible to set up an archive that
> > > functions as well as the one we have been using? And includes all
> > the
> > > old
> > > messages, as well as ones to come?
> > > Its kind of ironic to be taking a step backwards in this department
> > > when the
> > > rationale of setting up another list was the terrible (?)
> > problems of
> > > the
> > > old one ...
> > >
> > > On 5/19/06, Fred Hebard <Fred@acf.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Frank,
> > > >
> > > > It might be useful to pass this info onto the Google folks, as
> > well
> > > > as getting the current Nav-L archive to archive all the NavList
> > > > messages.
> > > >
> > > > Fred
> > > >
> > > > On May 18, 2006, at 7:13 AM, Alexandre E Eremenko wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Dear Frank,
> > > > >
> > > > >> We're in the process of deciding how to create
> > > > >> a web-based archive that might be
> > > > >> more directly under control of list members.
> > > > >
> > > > > The NavList archiv has some substantial disadvantages
> > > > > in comparison with the Nav-L archiv.
> > > > >
> > > > > You cannot see a list of all messages.
> > > > > (Or maybe I don't know how).
> > > > > The Nav-L archiv permits you to see all messages
> > > > > for a given month, and to sort them in several ways:
> > > > > "by thread", "by author", and "by date".
> > > > >
> > > > > There is nothing like that in the new NavList archiv,
> > > > > it only shows you the topic titles... which makes it much less
> > > > > useful.
> > > > >
> > > > > Alex.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> >
> >
> >
> > >
>
>
> >
>
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From: Craig Z
Date: 2006 May 18, 18:38 -0500
Gents,
one that that I haven't seen mentioned is getting a dump of the old
mailing list.
Even if it is a few GB of data I'm sure some of us would be happy to
store it. Multiple copies = data security.
So, is it possible?
On 5/19/06, Fred Hebard <Fred@acf.org> wrote:
>
> I agree thoroughly here. I was suggesting that Google might want to
> update their software to provide the features of the Nav-L archive
> for all their lists, and that Frank might want to contact them to
> suggest this. This point is moot, however, if we can't migrate the
> old archives to Google, and if they don't maintain the archive going
> back to day one. Some list archives migrate off of HTML severs,
> which is very inconvenient.
>
> The other point is that I believe the existing Nav-L archive should
> be a current member of the Google list so that it is kept up to
> date. Additionally, I believe the current archive of the Google list
> should be added to the Nav-L archive; perhaps the dates could be
> spoofed.
>
> Frank suggested he might be rolling his own archive. This might not
> be too good as who would maintain the codebase, and archive, were he
> no longer here? Or Frank may be looking into other archives.
>
> Fred
>
> On May 18, 2006, at 2:17 PM, Peter Fogg wrote:
>
> > Have looked at Google's "advanced search". While it may be
> > impressive I'm not sure it offers much more than was available
> > through Google or its competitors with respect to the old archive.
> > More to the point, it doesn't offer what we had, as pointed out by
> > Alexandre:
> > "The Nav-L archiv permits you to see all messages
> > for a given month, and to sort them in several ways:"
> > It seems I'm not the only one who finds that simple list by
> > cronological order, modifiable, a very useful feature.
> >
> > On 5/19/06, Greg R. <gregr_ingest@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Peter wrote:
> >
> > > Am not sure how amenable Google is going to be about setting up an
> > > archive for our requirements. Would it be possible to set up an
> > > archive that functions as well as the one we have been using?
> >
> > If this group works the same as other Google Groups that I've used
> > (some of them that I've setup myself for various discussion/project
> > groups), there's an extensive search engine already built in. Try this
> > URL and see if it'll work for what you want:
> > http://groups.google.com/advanced_search?q=&.
> >
> > Hope that helps.
> >
> > --
> > GregR
> >
> > --- Peter Fogg < peter.fogg@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Am not sure how amenable Google is going to be about setting up an
> > > archive
> > > for our requirements. Would it be possible to set up an archive that
> > > functions as well as the one we have been using? And includes all
> > the
> > > old
> > > messages, as well as ones to come?
> > > Its kind of ironic to be taking a step backwards in this department
> > > when the
> > > rationale of setting up another list was the terrible (?)
> > problems of
> > > the
> > > old one ...
> > >
> > > On 5/19/06, Fred Hebard <Fred@acf.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Frank,
> > > >
> > > > It might be useful to pass this info onto the Google folks, as
> > well
> > > > as getting the current Nav-L archive to archive all the NavList
> > > > messages.
> > > >
> > > > Fred
> > > >
> > > > On May 18, 2006, at 7:13 AM, Alexandre E Eremenko wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Dear Frank,
> > > > >
> > > > >> We're in the process of deciding how to create
> > > > >> a web-based archive that might be
> > > > >> more directly under control of list members.
> > > > >
> > > > > The NavList archiv has some substantial disadvantages
> > > > > in comparison with the Nav-L archiv.
> > > > >
> > > > > You cannot see a list of all messages.
> > > > > (Or maybe I don't know how).
> > > > > The Nav-L archiv permits you to see all messages
> > > > > for a given month, and to sort them in several ways:
> > > > > "by thread", "by author", and "by date".
> > > > >
> > > > > There is nothing like that in the new NavList archiv,
> > > > > it only shows you the topic titles... which makes it much less
> > > > > useful.
> > > > >
> > > > > Alex.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> >
> >
> >
> > >
>
>
> >
>
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