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Re: Lights,Leds and scopes etc.
From: Rino
Date: 2003 Oct 14, 15:50 -0400

```Found this on the 'Net:

Perry's handbook of Chemical Engineering - Conversion tables 1-7

to convert from            to          multiply by

Candle power(spherical)  lumens          12.556

lumens                    watts         .001496

result  .0188 watts/CP

Rino

-----Original Message-----
On Behalf Of David Weilacher
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 15:41
Subject: Re: Lights,Leds and scopes etc.

Does anyone have a 'workable' (as opposed to accurate) formula for
converting between lumens, candlepower, and watts (lighting)?

Is candlepower and candela synonimous?

Is it true that a WW2 pilot could see a candle burning in a window at 8
miles?

-----Original Message-----
From: George Huxtable
Sent: Oct 14, 2003 3:39 PM
Subject: Re: Lights,Leds and scopes etc.

Earlier today, I sent a mailing as follows (in part)-

>Jared Sherman said-
>
>>12 LED's, typically 40mA each. That would draw 0.48 Amps,
>
>Comment from George-
>
>That's not the way anyone would drive such an array, not if he was
>trying to conserve the power taken a 12-volt power source.
>
>Instead, the diodes should be strung together IN SERIES, as far as
>possible. It depends somewhat on the details of the specified voltage
>drop across each LED at full output, but 4 or 5 such diodes connected
>in series should still add up to less than 10 volts, allowing a
>somewhat-depleted battery to drive them, with a bit of "headroom" for a
>current-regulator to work properly.
>
>Each such diode string would require a separate current regulator. If a
>12-diode array was made up of, say, 3 such strings, then the overall
>battery drain would then be only 0.12 Amps, not 0.48 Amps as Jared
>suggests. Three separate current regulators would be required in this
>case, each able to cope with dissipation about 0.2 Watts to deal with
>the enhanced voltage on the rail with a highly-charged battery and a
>running
>engine: this is not very demanding.

=================

Some of that was certainly wrong, and I would like to backtrack, with some
apologies.

Dave Weilacher posted-

>How about looking at this site and commenting.
>
>http://www.superbrightleds.com/

So I did; and there found some detailed specifications for superbright
LED's, reg, green, and others.

And discovered that for the green LEDs, the forward voltage drop at maximum
output was significantly greater than I expected, between 3.5 and 4 volts.

That implies that it would be quite impossible to power "4 or 5 such diodes"
from a 12 volt supply, as I had suggested. In fact, one could series-up no
more than two such diodes: which would still be worth doing, for current
economy, rather than connecting them in parallel. Each  series pair would
then need its own current driver.

For the red diodes, the voltage drop is significantly less, and it would be
quite practicable to connect 4 such diodes in series (but not 5), with a
current driver.

Sorry to get that wrong.

In view of these higher voltage drops, the use of a current-regulated power
supply, providing sufficient voltage step-up to drive all the diodes in a
lamp in a single series chain (as in the "orcagreen" lamps), seems a rather
sensible alternative.

George.

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01865 820222 (from outside UK, +44 1865 820222), or by mail at 1 Sandy Lane,
Southmoor, Abingdon, Oxon OX13 5HX, UK.
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Dave Weilacher
.    #889968
.ASA instructor evaluator and celestial
.IBM AS400 RPG contract programmer

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