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Re: Lewis and Clark.
From: Peter Hakel
Date: 2010 Sep 22, 10:53 -0700
From: Peter Hakel
Date: 2010 Sep 22, 10:53 -0700
For interesting discussions about Lewis and Clark (including brief mentioning of CelNav, but not focused on it) check out some past episodes (e.g. via podcast) of the Thomas Jefferson Hour program.
http://www.jeffersonhour.org/
If I remember right, Meriwether Lewis got a "crash-course" in CelNav directly from his mentor, the 3rd US President.
Peter Hakel
From: Ken Muldrew <kmuldrew@ucalgary.ca>
To: NavList@fer3.com
Sent: Wed, September 22, 2010 9:42:33 AM
Subject: [NavList] Re: Lewis and Clark.
On 22 Sep 2010 at 9:30, Alan wrote:
> Speaking for myself, and accounting for my limited understanding of
> Celestial, it seems that the discussions are or might be missing what L &
> C did accomplish.
Neither Lewis & Clarke, nor any of their corps, were trained in celnav.
They had a crash course prior to their voyage of discovery and,
critically, they were advised not to work up any of their observations
during the trip. Had they done so, they would have at least realized early
on that they were making serious errors with their observations. But since
they didn't, those errors were continued throughout their journey, and the
resulting data was rendered almost completely useless. It is simply a fact
that the celnav activities undertaken by Lewis & Clarke were thoroughly
bad. This fact is wholly independent of everything else that L & C did
accomplish.
In other words, nobody is missing the accomplishments of L & C, we are
simply limiting the discussion to celestial navigation.
Ken Muldrew.
http://www.jeffersonhour.org/
If I remember right, Meriwether Lewis got a "crash-course" in CelNav directly from his mentor, the 3rd US President.
Peter Hakel
From: Ken Muldrew <kmuldrew@ucalgary.ca>
To: NavList@fer3.com
Sent: Wed, September 22, 2010 9:42:33 AM
Subject: [NavList] Re: Lewis and Clark.
On 22 Sep 2010 at 9:30, Alan wrote:
> Speaking for myself, and accounting for my limited understanding of
> Celestial, it seems that the discussions are or might be missing what L &
> C did accomplish.
Neither Lewis & Clarke, nor any of their corps, were trained in celnav.
They had a crash course prior to their voyage of discovery and,
critically, they were advised not to work up any of their observations
during the trip. Had they done so, they would have at least realized early
on that they were making serious errors with their observations. But since
they didn't, those errors were continued throughout their journey, and the
resulting data was rendered almost completely useless. It is simply a fact
that the celnav activities undertaken by Lewis & Clarke were thoroughly
bad. This fact is wholly independent of everything else that L & C did
accomplish.
In other words, nobody is missing the accomplishments of L & C, we are
simply limiting the discussion to celestial navigation.
Ken Muldrew.
