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    Re: Lewis and Clark. was: sextant practice and time keepers
    From: John Huth
    Date: 2010 Sep 18, 17:26 -0400
    Their journal entries on dead reckoning are rather amazing - very meticulous.

    On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 4:55 PM, George Huxtable <george@hux.me.uk> wrote:
    Hewitt Schlereth wrote-
    "One of the good things about celestial is you can learn all you need to
    know without going to sea - just ask Lewis or Clark."

    Lewis and Clark may well be icons of American history, but they should not
    be held up as examples of celestial navigation. They may have been
    competent leaders of a military expedition into then-alien lands. Their
    dead-reckoning along the river may have been workmanlike. But as celestial
    navigators, they were inept.

    It wasn't really their fault. Wich no experience of navigation between
    them, Lewis was pitched into a crash-course on celestial navigation with
    the astronomer Robert M Patterson, in Philadelphia, before the journey
    started. He was provided with a handwritten document, Patterson's
    "Astronomical Notebook", which he carried throughout the great journey. It
    was not at all "user-friendly", and did not address the special
    requirements of a land-navigator. I have made a transcript of its contents
    available, with an explanatory commentary, at-
    http://www.hux.me.uk/lewis01.htm

    After leaving Philadelphia, Lewis had no other source of navigational
    advice. When Clark joined, he was instructed by Lewis, so it was a case of
    the blind leading the blind.

    I have made a detailed analysis of the early part of their journey, in
    http://www.hux.me.uk/lewis02.htm .
    This covers their ascent of the Mississippi, from its junction with the
    Ohio, near modern Cairo, to winter near its junction with the Missouri,
    close to St Louis. From this point, the expedition proper commenced, up the
    Missouri. So these were their days of self-learning about navigation, in
    which they would make every conceivable blunder. Unfortunately few of those
    errors were recognised, and most continued right through the voyage. As a
    result, not one of their deduced positions was ever correct, and even
    simple latitudes were grossly in error.

    So, fine explorers they may have been, and they certainly made a momentous
    journey. But Lewis and Clark should not be held up as exponents of
    celestial navigation.

    George

    contact George Huxtable, at  george{at}hux.me.uk
    or at +44 1865 820222 (from UK, 01865 820222)
    or at 1 Sandy Lane, Southmoor, Abingdon, Oxon OX13 5HX, UK.

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Hewitt Schlereth" <hhew36@gmail.com>
    To: <NavList@fer3.com>
    Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2010 6:04 PM
    Subject: [NavList] Re: sextant practice and time keepers


    | Good Afternoon, Alan -
    |
    | Well, welcome to a quaint old art. It's always heartening to see a new
    mind
    | engaged by it.
    |
    | I'm curious about the sextant you're using and what sight reduction
    method.
    |
    | Also be interested  to know what general (landlocked) part of the world
    you
    | are in.  One of the good things about celestial is you can learn all you
    | need to know without going to sea - just ask Lewis or Clark.
    |
    | Hewitt
    |
    | On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 12:46 PM, Alan <alan202@verizon.net> wrote:
    |
    | > For reasons unknown, during the last few years I became interested in
    | > celestial navigation, strange as that might be, for I'm not a
    | > boating/sailing type.
    | >
    | > In any case, getting "good" with a marine sextant requires practice
    with
    | > the thing, an activity that living inland makes difficult. A while
    back,
    | > looking though a Celestaire catalog, I came on the Davis Artificial
    Horizon,
    | > and purchased one. They also offer a Practice Bubble Horizon that
    mounts on
    | > the sextant. I have yet to obtain success with the latter, though he
    former
    | > works, assuming that one reads the brief instruction sheet that comes
    with
    | > it.
    | >
    | > Working against a Known Position (GPS coordinates), my calculated fix
    | > (estimated position) often falls well within 5 NM of KP. Granted, I'm
    not on
    | > a small boat, bouncing all over the place, however granting that, one
    can
    | > get about as much practice as they can stand with the Davis Artificial
    | > Horizon.
    | >
    | > As to time keepers, a while back I purchased a Casio G-Shock Atomic
    Watch,
    | > via Amazon. Paid about $50.00 for it. The thing is, and remains dead
    nuts
    | > on, as far as I can determine via checking with Official Time via
    computer,
    | > time data coming from The Naval Observatory.
    | >
    | > For the sake of clarity, aside from being, in a small way, a customer,
    I
    | > have no connection with either Celestaire or Casio.
    | >
    | >
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