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    Re: Latitude by Spica
    From: Kieran Kelly
    Date: 2004 Jan 13, 10:26 +1100

    Bruce,
    I agree something seems amiss with this sight. The ship was located off the
    north east coast of New Guinea just north of the island of Mussau. On the
    morning in question (I picked March 30 as a typical Northern Spring day) in
    1847 sunrise was at 0651 approx and Spica set about 50 minutes later at 0743
    approx.
    
    However taking a mer passage sight would have been difficult. The star
    culminated at 0141 at an altitude of 81dd 11'. (All approx)
    
    I assumed DRP of 152dd 35.5'E and 1dd 33'N.
    
    Don't know what they were doing but they got the right answer or thereabouts
    as the subsequent latitude by noon sight shows. If they were taking a mer
    passage of Spica during the night, how could they do it? Highly unlikely
    that an artificial horizon was used.
    
    In relation to your other queries.
    Sailing by and large
    Sailing full and by
    Sailing large
    Sailing close hauled
    
    Are all expressions used on a square rigger to denote the wind. When I
    sailed on H M barque Endeavour several years ago the first officer used
    these terms, and others all the time. Alas I can only remember a couple.
    Sailing large was with the wind coming almost straight over the quarterdeck
    and hitting you in the back when standing at the wheel. Sailing close hauled
    was up into the wind as close as she would go, which in the Endeavour, which
    is a keel-less cat more like a barge with masts, wasn't very close.
    
    Kieran Kelly
    Sydney
    Australia
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Navigation Mailing List
    [mailto:NAVIGATION-L@LISTSERV.WEBKAHUNA.COM]On Behalf Of Bruce Stark
    Sent: Tuesday, 13 January 2004 5:08 AM
    To: NAVIGATION-L@LISTSERV.WEBKAHUNA.COM
    Subject: Re: Latitude by Spica
    
    
    Star altitudes at 8 AM on a spring morning, at that latitude? I'm guessing
    the terms AM and PM got mixed up. I believe Spical would have been on the
    meridian at 8 PM about the middle of June.
    
    I'm interested in "Course full and by." Does this mean they were on whaling
    grounds and cruising back and forth across the wind, keeping their reckoning
    only in the back of their heads? That would have been the reasonable thing
    to
    do, it seems to me.
    
    Bruce
    
    
    

       
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