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    From: Frank Reed CT
    Date: 2006 May 11, 14:47 EDT

    A couple of things:
    1) None of the problems  on Navigation-L are Dan Hogan's fault. And that's
    why they're such a nuisance.  As Ken M. pointed out a couple of weeks ago, this
    sort of buggy behavior is  extremely difficult to resolve. It's easier just to
    rebuild on a new server. Dan  Hogan, I hope you'll join NavList and consider
    being a manager on the list since  members of this community clearly want your
    2) I will be on  the road for the next two days. Since I won't be able to
    check in as regularly  as usual, I have asked one of the co-owners of NavList to
    keep an eye on things.  Already today, five new subscribers have joined
    3) George? You would  really enjoy some of the discussions going on there.
    And there are no missing  messages. Same goes for the rest of you who have been
    waiting. You are VERY  WELCOME to join. The point of NavList is not to create
    a breakaway list --but  rather to move this online community AS A WHOLE to a
    different, better  service.
    4) To join NavList, all you have to do is send an e-mail to the  subscribe
    NavList-subscribe"AT"googlegroups.com. This is also  explained on
    5) Archives. The list is self-archiving on  google, however I think we would
    all like to see a continuation of the archive  that exists on i-DEADLINK-com --if
    nothing more, then as a backup (two better than  one). This is relatively easy,
    as long as the person who owns i-DEADLINK-com is  willing. He is simply another
    e-mail address signed on to the list. I'll ask him  in a few days unless anyone
    6) Spam risk on NavList is very low. I  do not agree in the slightest with
    Robert Gainer's concerns. But I know how he  feels --when you've had an e-mail
    address burned by spam, it's hard to forget.  There is nothing about the google
    list that would expose you to spam. E-mail  adresses are masked. Nonetheless,
    if you are still worried, then join NavList  with a disposable e-mail address
    (a hotmail address for example). In that case,  I would recommend reading the
    list and posting to the list via the web  interface. Then it doesn't matter
    whether your disposable address gets spammed  to death or not because you won't
    be following the list by e-mail.
    7) If we  can get this over with, then we can talk about navigation (as we
    have been on  NavList) and no more "meta-discussion" about list trivialities.
    That would be  nice, yes??
    42.0N 87.7W, or 41.4N  72.1W.

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