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Re: Irradiation
From: Robert Gainer
Date: 2004 Nov 29, 00:59 +0000
From: Robert Gainer
Date: 2004 Nov 29, 00:59 +0000
D�j� vu all over again. When I was on the sextant group today I was sure I had read something about irradiation recently. Now it pops up on this group. The thread that started this discussion on the sextant list was in connection with a member�s comment that he waited for a full moon to illuminate the horizon before he would take a shot of the stares after twilight. My thought was that irradiation would spoil his plan. I don�t use the moon after twilight because I thought the horizon was in error because of this illusion. Now I guess that I am doing the right thing but for the wrong reason. Although this leaves me with a question now, can I shoot the stares with a horizon illuminated only by the moon? All the best, Robert Gainer >From: George Huxtable>Reply-To: Navigation Mailing List >To: NAVIGATION-L@LISTSERV.WEBKAHUNA.COM >Subject: Re: Irradiation >Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 00:24:57 +0000 > >Alex asked- > > >Dear list participants, > >Can anyone give a good reference > >for irradiation? > >I remember the issue was raised few > >times on this list, but using the search > >engine I could not find much. > >CelNav books I have don't even mention this word. > >(Neither my Encyclopaedia Britannica (1960!) does). > >I am even not sure whether this phenomenon > >belongs to optics or to psychology/perception/physiology:-) > >Typing "irradiation" in the Google also > >returns millions of sights irrelevant to optics > >and perception:-) > > > >On the other hand, my measurements of the index correction > >from the Sun, sometimes give some error which I cannot explain. > >========================== > >It's odd, but both the "sextants" mailing list and Nav-l are dealing with >the same topic of irradiation at the same time. > >I sent a posting to the sextants list earlier today under the threadname >"Irradiation", and copy it here in case it's useful. > >========================= quote from sextants list posting follows- > >Bob Gainer wrote- > > >I understand from some reading > >that the moonlight has a distorting effect on the horizon directly below >the > >moon diminishing as you change your azimuth relative to the moon. I think > >this was called irradiation, a bright light near a dark mass moves the > >apparent mass because of an optical illusion. Have you heard of this >effect? > >Its one of the reasons that I will not shoot the moon after dark, I am > >afraid that the horizon is not real. I wonder if that�s true and if it >is, > >how far away from the moon must you be to see the true horizon to shot >the > >stars? > >================= > >I think the effect Bob is talking about is not "irradiation", but is due to >the reflection from ripples in the water surface. > >Irradiation is an effect that occurs in the observer's eye, a defect in >everyone's perception of vision. Where there is a sharp change in >brightness between two areas seen in the eye, such as at the edge of the >Sun, the retina always seems to perceive that boundary as shifted toward >the darker area. So, it makes the Sun (even when seen through a shade) >appear somewhat larger than it really is. It makes the boundary of a bright >horizon above a darker sea appear to be lower than it really is. > >You can demonstrate the effect for yourself, rather convincingly. Hold your >finger and thumb up a few inches in front of an eye (the distance isn't >critical), such that there's a bright diffuse background behind: a white >cloud, a lit lampshade, even a bright computer screen. Now bring finger and >thumb together. Just as they meet, you see a dark shadow jump across the >narrow gap between them. Part them, ever so slightly, and that shadow >suddenly vanishes. I haven't met anyone who is immune to this effect. It >surprises all who notice it, and they find it hard to explain. > >What's happening, it seems to me, is this. As long as there is the >slightest sliver of light, illuminating the narrow isthmus between finger >and thumb, the effect of irradiation makes it look wider than it actually >is (by an arc-minute or so, perhaps). Only when the gap closes completely, >so there's no light shining through that isthmus at all, does that bright >sliver disappear. That's why it appears to vanish so suddenly. Try it for >yourself. > >Because irradiation is an effect that occurs within the eye, it can be >minimised by using a high-magnification scope with the sextant. > >At one time, the Nautical Almanac allowed for the effects of irradiation as >follows- > >For lower-limb measurements of the Sun, it presumed that irradiation >depressed the perceived horizon, and the perceived lower-limb of the Sun, >by about the same amount, so no correction for irradiation applied. > >For upper-limb Sun observations, things were different. As before, >irradiation made the horizon look lower than it really was. But now. >irradiation caused the Sun's upper limb to appear to be a bit higher. So, >the argument ran, there was a double effect of irradiation in measuring the >angle between the two, as is done on Sun upper-limb observations. > >For that reason, correction tables for the Sun's upper-limb (but not the >lower) were adjusted by 1.2' to allow for irradiation, since 1953. > >However, second thoughts prevailed, described in a paper by W A Scott and D >H Sadler, NAO technical note no. 12, Jan 1967, "Corrections, for >Irradiation, to the Observed Altitude of the Sun", published by HM Nautical >Almanac Office, whose present address is- >Rutherford Appleton Laboratory, Chilton, Didcot, OX11 0QX, UK. > >The end result of the many observations described in that paper, which >showed the irradiation error varying between observers, with Sun altitude, >and with observing conditions, was this- "... it would be more in keeping >with our lack of knowledge to omit the effect of irradiation from the >altitude correction tables in the Nautical Almanac". That occurred shortly >afterwards, but I don't know at what date. > >Although it is so hard to predict numerically, there remains little doubt >that irradiation is a real effect, presenting problems to observers who >wish to observe with ultimate accuracy, such as in measuring lunar >distances. > >George. > >====================end of quote from sextants posting. > >The NAO are usually helpful and are likely to offer a copy of that >technical note, but they like to be asked by letter. > >Otherwise, I have a copy, which I could quote from or lend to Alex if he >wishes. > >The study is of "a quantity d, representing the differential irradiation >coorrection between the two limbs of the Sun; the currently adopted value >of this quantity is +1.2'." [It was, then, back in 1967, but is no longer - >George] > >From page 8, I quote- "There is a sound physical explanation of why the >values of d (whether due solely to irradiation or not) at very low >altitudes might differ from those at higher altitudes; this is the effect >of the reflection of sunlight from the water surface. It is less clear why >the effect should differ between the two limbs. However, there is no >evidence that the large values of d found for low altitudes are applicable >to higheraltitudes; the many NAO observations indicate conclusively that, >for altitudes greater than about 10 degrees, the currently adopted vaue of >+1.2', deduced from the low-level observations, cannot be sustained..." > >I'm not sure that I follow the reasoning there, but the evidence is based >on nearly 8000 observations taken for the purpose (from the shore). > >George. > >================================================================ >contact George Huxtable by email at george@huxtable.u-net.com, by phone at >01865 820222 (from outside UK, +44 1865 820222), or by mail at 1 Sandy >Lane, Southmoor, Abingdon, Oxon OX13 5HX, UK. >================================================================ _________________________________________________________________ On the road to retirement? 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