Welcome to the NavList Message Boards.

NavList:

A Community Devoted to the Preservation and Practice of Celestial Navigation and Other Methods of Traditional Wayfinding

Compose Your Message

Message:αβγ
Message:abc
Add Images & Files
    or...
       
    Reply
    Intermediate points in great circle courses
    From: Lu Abel
    Date: 1999 Jul 25, 12:33 PM

    A friend of mine who is not a sailor but an avid electronic gadgeteer
    showed up the other day with his new handheld GPS.  He asked me how far
    away the destination point could be in finding course and distance.  "As
    far as you want."  To demonstrate, I pulled out an atlas and we punched in
    the L/Lo of Times Square in New York City (we're in San Jose, California).
    
    He noticed the indicated course was a bit more northerly than one would get
    from the atlas.  I told him the GPS was calculating great circle courses,
    which always run more pole-ward than straight-line (rhumb line) courses.
    He's a smart guy -- he's heard of great circle courses and understands what
    they are.
    
    He asked how to calculate a great circle course.  I pulled out the USPS JN
    text and looked up the spherical trig formulae.  He whipped out his laptop
    computer and in a couple of minutes had an Excel spreadsheet which took two
    L/Lo's and calculated distance and initial heading.  The results were in
    excellent agreement with what the GPS was displaying for course and
    distance to NYC.
    
    A couple of days later he asked: "Lu, how do you steer a great circle
    course?  How do you know what your headings should be as you sail or fly
    along a great circle?"
    
    I told him that one would plot several intermediate points of the course on
    a Mercator chart and then steer the rhumb-line courses between them.  Then
    I realized I didn't know how to find intermediate points.
    
    My copy of Bowditch has grown feet and disappeared.  Dutton's only advice
    (as well as the USPS's) is "use a great circle chart and transfer points to
    your Mercator chart."
    
    Since a great circle course is one side of a spherical triangle with the
    start and end points and the elevated pole as vertices, I would assume I
    could calculate the latitude of a point on the course for any DLo, but my
    spherical trig is really rusty and I don't have a book of formulae.
    
    I'll also point out that one could solve the problem in a fraction of a
    second on a computer using a technique known as iteration:  If I want the
    latitude of a point on the course for some intermediate longitude, guess
    one (say by simple plane trig using the initial course), calculate the
    course to it from the starting point, if the course is more pole-ward than
    the great circle then the assumed point's latitude is too great and it
    needs to be reduced; if the course is more equator-ward, then the latitude
    is too low.  The key is to adjust the latitude by an amount which is
    proportionate to the course error.  If one does this repeatedly, the
    assumed point will get as close as one wants to the great circle.
    
    Thanks for helping fill out what I suddenly realize is a hole in my knowledge!
    
    Lu Abel
    

       
    Reply
    Browse Files

    Drop Files

    NavList

    What is NavList?

    Join NavList

    Name:
    (please, no nicknames or handles)
    Email:
    Do you want to receive all group messages by email?
    Yes No

    You can also join by posting. Your first on-topic post automatically makes you a member.

    Posting Code

    Enter the email address associated with your NavList messages. Your posting code will be emailed to you immediately.
    Email:

    Email Settings

    Posting Code:

    Custom Index

    Subject:
    Author:
    Start date: (yyyymm dd)
    End date: (yyyymm dd)

    Visit this site
    Visit this site
    Visit this site
    Visit this site
    Visit this site
    Visit this site