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    Re: Honesty (was Re: Mercator vs. Great Circle Charts)
    From: Dave Weilacher
    Date: 2001 Aug 29, 6:39 AM

    So this is a new person to this list.
    
    She took the time to join the list.
    
    Then she took the time to type out a long email message asking for assistance.
    
    Not a single answer to any question has been forthcoming.
    
    Just attacks on her character, morals, and ethics.
    
    I would contend that even if this was a 15 year old "scum bag of the 
    universe", the very act of typing out all those questions with her own hand, 
    then evaluating the answers she receives, accomplishes the act of learning.
    
    This is the goal.
    
    I would say to her not to be discouraged with this group as they are far 
    better people than has been demonstrated so far.
    
    
    -----Original Message-----
    From  "Richard B. Emerson" 
    Date:         Wed, 29 Aug 2001 08:10:22 -0400
    To: NAVIGATION-L{at}LISTSERV.WEBKAHUNA.COM
    Subject:      [NAV-L] Honesty (was Re: Mercator vs. Great Circle Charts)
    
    
    Re: No, no, Ms. Seefer, that simply won't do.  Your argument that the
    Re: course is being taken for personal enrichment (consider what this
    Re: episode says about that goal) and that "being innovative" in seeking
    Re: the answers is, to be blunt, little more than poor rationalization.
    Re: One is either honest or not; one cannot claim honesty when it suits
    Re: and put it aside when, as your message implies you've done, it doesn't
    Re: suit one's mood.  Ms. Seefer, it *always* matters.
    Re:
    Re: Were you only a student cheating on a test, the matter might rest
    Re: there but as an academic you are obliged to maintain a higher standard
    Re: that your students should aim to emulate.  Failing to do so is,
    Re: because of your responsibility as an instructor, is doubly wrong.  I
    Re: suggest you review the cases of those academics found to be falsifying
    Re: their research, their work, and their credentials.  There is a lesson
    Re: to be learned there.  I hope you learn it.  In the meantime, I shudder
    Re: to think what your students have learned from you about ethics.
    Re:
    Re: Richard B. Emerson
    Re:
    
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    Dave Weilacher
    .USCG lic. 889968
    .ASA certifed sailing instructor 990800
    .AS400 RPG programmer
    
    
    
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