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    Re: Honesty (was Re: Mercator vs. Great Circle Charts)
    From: Richard B. Emerson
    Date: 2001 Aug 29, 9:15 AM

    I say the following as a statement of fact and not as a judgement: the
    enclosed is what's shown up here in the past as some student tries to
    get the list to do their homework.
    
    While I stand by my remarks, predicated as they were on what now
    appears to be incomplete information (and I do *not* mean that in a
    negative or derogatory manner), it appears that the initial situation
    was not clearly stated.  If, as now seems to be the case, this was an
    effort to find further input for the answers to questions already
    researched, then, indeed, welcome and ask away.  Please understand
    that initial situation touches on a matter that I do not easily
    discount or ignore.  I publicly apologize for the pain my harsh remarks
    have caused and refer to an earlier posting about navigators and
    rocks.  I do not consider myself "the best of navigators".
    
    Richard B. Emerson
    
    Carolyn Seefer writes:
     > In a message dated 8/29/2001 6:21:51 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
     > navsys@PINEFIELDS.COM writes:
     >
     >
     > > I stand by my remarks.  Had Ms. Seefer said "I'm taking this course, I
     > > need help with these questions" then I wouldn't be as bothered by the
     > > situation.
     >
     > Mr. Emerson, this is exactly what I did. Here is the exact start of the first
     > message I sent to the mailing list yesterday:
     >
     > "I just joined the Navigation mailing list. This semester I am taking an
     > oceanography class, and this list looked interesting and informative. I am a
     > novice in this area (but eager to learn!), so I am hoping to learn a lot on
     > this list from the experts.
     >
     > We are currently studying Mercator and great circle charts, and I've already
     > run into a few questions I am hoping you can help me with:"
     >
     > I was completely upfront about my goals. I continue to stand by my position
     > that I have done nothing wrong. And, Mr. Emerson, I am completely honest in
     > all of my dealings.
     >
     > Carolyn M. Seefer, MBA
     > Instructor, Business Division
     > Diablo Valley College
     > 321 Golf Club Road
     > Pleasant Hill, CA 94523
     > (925) 685-1230 x306
     > (925) 687-6384 (fax)
     > cseefer@dvc.edu
     > http://www.dvc.edu/aim/carolyn.htm
     > "Live as if you were to die tomorrow. Learn as if you were to live forever."
     > --Gandhi
     > In a message dated 8/29/2001 
    6:21:51 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
     > 
    navsys@PINEFIELDS.COM writes: >
    >
    >
    I stand by my remarks.  Had Ms. Seefer said "I'm taking this course, I >
    need help with these questions" then I wouldn't be as bothered by the >
    situation.  
    >
    >
    Mr. Emerson, this is exactly what I did. Here is the exact start of the first >
    message I sent to the mailing list yesterday: >
    >
    "I just joined the Navigation mailing list. This semester I am taking an >
    oceanography class, and this list looked interesting and informative. I am a >
    novice in this area (but eager to learn!), so I am hoping to learn a lot on >
    this list from the experts. >
    >
    We are currently studying Mercator and great circle charts, and I've already >
    run into a few questions I am hoping you can help me with:" >
    >
    I was completely upfront about my goals. I continue to stand by my position >
    that I have done nothing wrong. And, Mr. Emerson, I am completely honest in >
    all of my dealings. >
    >
    Carolyn M. Seefer, MBA >
    Instructor, Business Division >
    Diablo Valley College >
    321 Golf Club Road >
    Pleasant Hill, CA 94523 >
    (925) 685-1230 x306 >
    (925) 687-6384 (fax) >
    cseefer@dvc.edu >
    http://www.dvc.edu/aim/carolyn.htm >
    "Live as if you were to die tomorrow. Learn as if you were to live forever."   >
    --Gandhi

       
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