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    Ho 208
    From: Mike Burkes
    Date: 2005 Nov 3, 09:29 -0800

    HO 208 designed by Lt Comm JY Dreisonstok and I have a 5th Ed circa 1940.
    John Letcher, author of " Self Contained Celeatial Navigation using HO 208"
    ,advocates them and they are quite compact!
    Mike Burkes
    >From: "Royer, Doug" 
    >Reply-To: Navigation Mailing List 
    >Subject: Re: Azimuth Formula Questions
    >Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 10:45:59 -0800
    > > Doug Royer wrote:
    > >> I learned and then started to use HO-211 on a regular basis. 28 pages
    > >> data covers just about everything to reduce sights. But that is all it
    > >> capable of doing. It can't compute GC sailings etc
    >Bill wrote:
    >I am familiar with HO211, although my text says it can be very slow unless
    >you have practiced 100 times recently ;-)
    >Do not know anything about HO208.  Any chance of filling in yet another gap
    >in my education?
    >I believe HO-208 was designed by Lichter? And HO-211 was designed by
    >HO-208 uses the same basic format as does HO-211 and in reality is most
    >likely an older method than HO-211. It is a more convoluted system to use
    >than is HO-211. I will provide a link that gives downloadable worksheets
    >rules to HO-208 and HO-211 and may provide the data pages for HO-211 also.
    >HO-211 is not hard to use or very slow to reduce sights for LOPs at all. If
    >you learned the rules to use the HO-214,229 or 249 reduction formats and
    >became proficient in using them then HO-211 can be learned and used in
    >the same amount of time. Just as in using the HO-229 or 249 formats to get
    >fast,dependable results one must practice using them to do so. It is just a
    >different format to accomplish the same thing. Both systems(208 + 211)are
    >based to reduce sights by using t(MA)instead of the way the newer
    >methods,except HO-214,are formatted. What is really nice about the HO-211
    >system is a person only needs the HO-211 data book (35 pgs) and a NA to
    >reduce sights from any band of latitude. One can forget about carrying all
    >the volumes of the newer systems onboard. And both are just as "accurate"
    >are the newer tabulation methods of sight reduction "in the real world".
    >When I was 1st taught reduction HO-208 was used by the mariners who taught
    >me. When I sat for my 1st CG exam for CN the method they used during
    >was HO-214 so I had to learn that method even though by that time HO-229
    >used almost exclusively in the fleet. So I also had to learn HO-229 after I
    >passed the exam and went back to work in the fleet. Yes, I've used them all
    >and each method has its strong and weak points to use but each gets the
    >Here is the link:

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