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    Re: Help for beginner
    From: Gary LaPook
    Date: 2015 Dec 21, 08:05 +0000
    Heretic, don't confuse the beginner, those types of ideas are for those of us who are skilled in arguing about how many angels can dance on the head of a pin. Let him learn the orthodoxy first before you lead him astray, off to the dark side.


    From: Paul Dolkas <NoReply_Dolkas@fer3.com>
    To: garylapook---.net
    Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2015 11:35 PM
    Subject: [NavList] Re: Help for beginner

    Well, not to confuse things, but a noon shot is the one time of day when you CAN determine your latitude AND longitude. That’s why it’s so special. The height of the sun tells you the latitude, and the time of the local “noon” tells you the longitude. The former is determined much more accurately than the latter, but there are a few tricks that have been discussed on this site to help you estimate the local noon time to within 30 seconds or so.  That may not be accurate enough for some, but it’s better than nothing.
    Paul Dolkas
    From: NavList@fer3.com [mailto:NavList@fer3.com] On Behalf Of Gary LaPook
    Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2015 9:35 PM
    To: paul{at}dolkas.net
    Subject: [NavList] Re: Help for beginner
    Well, you can't find your position by a noon shot, you can only determine your latitude with a noon sight, not your longitude. You can determine your position (if you are not moving) by taking a sun sight in the morning and then one in the afternoon, these two shots will provide a latitude and a longitude. You have a lot to learn and i don't mean that in a bad way, a lot of interesting things to learn. 
    Here is a link to a WW2 flight navigation manual that explains celestial navigation. (Don't be confused by the use of the bubble sextant in airplanes, the same methods are used with a marine sextant.
    Here is a link to the current Navy navigation manual.
    And a link to the current tables used for celestial navigation.
    You'll need an almanac, download it here for free:
    You can check you computations here:
    You are embarking on a an intersting quest, welcome aboard.

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