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Re: Hello (+ a few questions)
From: Thomas Schmidt
Date: 1999 Feb 08, 09:08 EST
From: Thomas Schmidt
Date: 1999 Feb 08, 09:08 EST
R.H. van Gent wrote: ... > 1) I am trying to locate an obscure reference cited in Bowditch?s > _American Practical Navigator: An Epitome of Navigation_ (p. 423, 1958 > edition; vol. II, p. 546, 1977/81 edition) to a study performed by the > Carnegie Institute of Washington on the application of the standard > formula for the correction for dip: ... Dear Mr. van Gent, I have taken the liberty of forwarding your question on HASTRO-L to this list last Friday, and I received this reply which I'll simply repeat here since you've joined us now: Richard Langley wrote: > For a good discussion of astronomical refraction, including horizontal > refraction, see Chapter 15 of Jean Meeus's Astronomical Algorithms. He gives > as one reference a paper by Bennett: "The Calculation of Astronomical > Refraction in Marine Navigation" in the Journal of the (U.K.) Institute of > Navigation, Vol. 35, 1982, pp. 255-259. > -- Richard Langley > Professor of Geodesy and Precision Navigation > > On Fri, 5 Feb 1999, Tom McHugh wrote: > > >R.H. van Gent wrote: (and others as well have stated substantially the > >same thing regarding dip) > >> > >> The small angle between both horizons is known as the 'dip', and can be > >> approximated by the following relation found in almost any astronomical > >> or navigational handbook: > >> > >> dip (minutes of arc) = 0.97 sqrt(h[ft]) > >> > >> with 'h' denoting the height of the observer?s eye above sea level in > >> feet. > > > >I think, that for beginners on the list, to avoid confusion, it > >would be well to state clearly that the above dip formula refers to > >the sea level as being one's local horizon of reference. and relates to > >one's > >vertical elevation of eyepoint above sea level. It must be pointed out > >that this formula will not be correct if one is on a horizontal plane > >at some considerable distance above sea level where the local horizon is > >also > >well above sea level. Put another way, someone living in Denver or > >other high plateau regions would have to calculate dip based upon > >height above the local horizontal plane, not referred to sea level. > >I am of course, referring to that portion of dip which is related to > >atmospheric refraction. Naturally, the eye level position above the > >horizontal > >will be the same. > > > >Even at "sea level" there would be differences in dip, as it has been > >determined that there are areas of the ocean's surface which are below > >mean sea level because of mass concentrations within the earth's crust > >or mantle. > > > >Tom McHugh > > > >tbmchugh@XXX.XXX > > > > > =============================================================================== > Richard B. Langley E-mail: lang@XXX.XXX > Geodetic Research Laboratory Web: http://www.unb.ca/GGE/ > Dept. of Geodesy and Geomatics Engineering Phone: +1 506 453-5142 > University of New Brunswick Fax: +1 506 453-4943 > Fredericton, N.B., Canada E3B 5A3 > Fredericton? Where's that? See: http://www.city.fredericton.nb.ca/ > =============================================================================== > <PRE> -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- Thomas Schmidt e-mail : schmidt@XXX.XXX =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-= =-= TO UNSUBSCRIBE, send this message to majordomo@XXX.XXX: =-= =-= unsubscribe navigation =-= =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-= </PRE>