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    Re: Heliacal rising - definition?
    From: Marcel Tschudin
    Date: 2011 Aug 18, 23:25 +0300
    Good evening George,

    I'm happy to see that you are in a position to contribute again to NavList..

    I made this literature search over 10 years ago. Presently this subject is not in my focus. I will make a note to look also what he contributed on this subject once I return back on it.

    I wish you all the best George; keep strong!.


    On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 11:07 PM, George Huxtable <george@hux.me.uk> wrote:
    I'm surprised that nobody has mentioned Brad Schaefer's work in this
    context (and in many other related fields concerned with atmospheric
    effects on arriving light).

    A search for Schaefer, combined with extinction, should take you to
    anything you need to know.


    contact George Huxtable, at  george@hux.me.uk
    or at +44 1865 820222 (from UK, 01865 820222)
    or at 1 Sandy Lane, Southmoor, Abingdon, Oxon OX13 5HX, UK.
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Apache Runner" <apacherunner@gmail.com>
    To: <NavList@fer3.com>
    Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 4:44 PM
    Subject: [NavList] Heliacal rising - definition?

    |I have a question: can someone define heliacal rising in a quantitative
    | fashion?   The reason I ask is that I'm interested in writing a piece of
    | code to identify heliacal risings, but when I think about the
    | implementation, many questions arise.
    | Roughly speaking, the heliacal rising is the first time a star is visible
    | just before sunrise.    If I think about what might actually be visible
    at a
    | given latitude, this seems to me to depend on the magnitude of the star,
    | even atmospheric effects, and even the height of the observer, if I were
    | get persnickety.
    | On the other hand, if I define some group of stars with a magnitude
    | than X, and say it's 'first visible' before local sunrise at, say 6
    | above the horizon at the start of astronomical twilight, I can get a
    | definition that I could implement in a piece of code - although this
    | probably yield some stars that would be several days past the 'first'
    | observation.
    | The latter definition is straightforward to implement, while the former
    | difficult for me to see how it would work.
    | Any thoughts?

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