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Re: HO229 history
From: Lu Abel
Date: 2007 Jan 19, 17:15 -0800
From: Lu Abel
Date: 2007 Jan 19, 17:15 -0800
I'm a bit unconvinced. My understanding is that HO229 was developed in the early days of computers using a computer to calculate the values in the tables, with the objective of producing tables that were accurate to 0.1 minute. This is supported by the preface material in 229. Calculating a great circle distance is no different than calculating a Hc (use DR for start point, GP of body for end point), except that GCD = 90 degrees minus Hc. Your friend's story might have stemmed from another, very true bit of early computer history: The development of the very first electronic computer, ENIAC, started during WW II to calculate artillery firing tables. I'm not an artillerist, but I understand that precision aiming of long-range artillery includes all sorts of factors, including even temperature, humidity, and barometric pressure, so any artillery piece requires enormous firing tables. See http://ei.cs.vt.edu/~history/ENIAC.Richey.HTML Lu Abel enoid@northwestel.net wrote: > > I cannot prove this as the person who told me passed away some years > ago, however, he was in the military and therefore presumably would have > had some insight into the matter. > > According to my late friend, HO 229 was developed to provide a tabular > and manual method of calculating great circle distances and headings of > long-range targets. > > As I said, I can only take the man at his word, and he was a highly > reliable and sober source. > > Robert > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Royer, Doug"> Date: Friday, January 19, 2007 1:51 pm > Subject: [NavList 2095] Re: Just getting started > >> >> >> >> >> For tables either H.O 249 or H.O. 229 or H.O. 214 are all very similar >> and 249 is the most convenient but only has a precision of one minute of >> >> arc which is an accuracy on one nautical mile which is realistic on a >> small boat. If you want higher precision, especially for practice >> shots while on shore, then 229 or 214 will do. 214 is out of print >> but I think its arrangements of the tables is more convenient than in >> 229. >> >> BTW, does anybody know why they switched from the 214 format to the >> 229 format so you cant just do a round of sight using only one page as >> you could do with 214 but have to chase all over for the LHAs? >> >> My understanding for the change in format from HO-214 to HO-229 was for >> ease/speed of tabular reduction with about the same level of >> precision.That may be correct. HO-229 does eliminate a step or two >> compared with >> HO-214. But then kind of requires the addition of a step when >> computingthe double 2nd difference. >> >> To expand on this further for the new guy's benefit: >> I, personally, like using the old HO-214. >> HO-249 vol. #1 is quick and easy to use but limits a person to using >> only the listed stars. Sometimes those listed stars can't be used >> because of local conditions but other, unlisted, bodies that may be >> useable can't be included for reduction because there is no data >> listedfor them. >> HO-249 Vols. #2 and 3 are arranged in the same format as are HO- >> 229 and >> does away with this limitation. >> >> If you want a short tabular method H.O. 208 is my preference. >> >> Good method. My preference is in using HO-211. It consists of 28 pages >> of data in one volume which covers it all from anywhere. Easy to use and >> quick for obtaining passable results with no limitations on which >> bodiesmay be used. For those minimalists in small vessels there is a 9 >> page >> volume of the same method. >> You can find many of these books on ebay. >> >> Or one may download a copy of both HO-208 and HO-211: >> >> http://www.geocities.com/sadams16/Navigation1.html >> >> Or the other methods if you desire. I just like having the hardback >> volumes of HO-214 thru HO-249 to use but it may not be practical in a >> small vessel or if money is an issue the above link will give you the >> volumes. >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ To post to this group, send email to NavList@fer3.com To , send email to NavList-@fer3.com -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---