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Re: Grenadine Lunar Distances
From: Fred Hebard
Date: 2003 Feb 2, 00:34 -0500
From: Fred Hebard
Date: 2003 Feb 2, 00:34 -0500
Arthur, Thank you for responding. This interchange of data and calculations is surely increasing my understanding of lunars, and I was very glad to hear it was increasing yours also. I was particularly struck by the difference between the hourly rate of change in observed and apparent distance, and the role of the various factors in this. I see that I have to think on this more. Regarding whether the lunar GMT being fast of the actual was due to a gap in contact or an overlap, I still believe it was a gap. The basis for my reasoning follows: the distance between the moon and sun was increasing with time. If the time reported was 4:05, for example, rather than 4:00, which is the situation, this would imply that a greater distance was recorded than actually occurred. A greater distance leads to a gap. If the distance had been decreasing with time, than a fast time would have been due to an overlap. I almost had myself talked into the reverse thinking after reading your post; this is tricky. Regarding gaps, I have been measuring index error by observing the semi-diameter of the sun, which is a fairly easy measurement, since the sun doesn't move relative to itself! It is only lately that I have not consistently been getting a 0.1' overlap in each measurement. Now I know this isn't 1.5', but.... I think when we see the errors in our computations, we have to remember that most of us are not making these measurements and computations on a daily basis, as would be the case for a navigator at sea. I'm sure daily repetition would help. Additionally, I think the need actually to have to depend on the results would sharpen one's abilities, perhaps acutely! Fred