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I'm still puzzled as to why the Port Royal was stooging around close
to shore. Just so the aviation committee could get ashore by launch?
-Hewitt

On 7/17/09, Brad Morris  wrote:
>
>  Hi Lu
>
>  Roger that!  I wasn't blaming the electronics, rather the crews' reliance 
on the electronics without consideration of other factors.
>
>
>  Best Regards
>  Brad
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>  -----Original Message-----
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> From: NavList@fer3.com [mailto:NavList@fer3.com] On Behalf Of Lu Abel
>  Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 11:06 PM
>  To: NavList@fer3.com
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> Subject: [NavList 9120] Re: Fw: Grounding of cruiser PORT ROYAL
>
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>  I wouldn't blame the problem on electronics, but rather on violating the
>  fundamental rule of navigation -- to use ALL available information.
>  Silt indicating the ship was operating in shallow water was ignored.
>  Alarms indicating a disagreement between the GPS and inertial systems
>  were ignored.  Even having a competent deck watch instead down below
>  serving galley duty was wrong.   I suspect the captain was under
>  pressure to return the Port Royal to service quickly despite delays in
>  its shipyard work (two weeks, according to the article); he gambled and
>  lost on shortcuts in returning the Port Royal to operational status.  I
>  guess there's a thin line between being a bold leader (which is what
>  gets you promotions) and a stupid one...
>
>  Brad Morris wrote:
>  > This is another clear case of over-reliance on the electronics without 
one little thought in their heads about how the position might be wrong, even 
though the electronics warned them about a 1.5 mile difference between the 
inertial (laser ring gyro) system and the GPS system.  Why they thought that 
the inertial system would be better than either the GPS or the Mark 1 Eyeball 
systems astonishing.
>  >
>  > So the "captain" is put back on shore duty and a large complement of 
officer's careers are ruined.  For those that were actually culpable, they 
deserve the punishment, as they could see that they weren't in the right 
spot.  What were they thinking?  One of those articles states that they could 
see silt being churned up (shallow waters) and that they could see fixed 
locations on land.  At what point did they think that was OK, especially 
after the electronics warnings about GPS errors.
>  >
>  > Best Regards
>  > Brad
>  >
>  > -----Original Message-----
>  > From: NavList@fer3.com [mailto:NavList@fer3.com] On Behalf Of George Huxtable
>  > Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 1:28 PM
>  > To: NavList@fer3.com
>  > Subject: [NavList 9089] Fw: Grounding of cruiser PORT ROYAL
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>  >
>  > I wonder whether this will be of interest, about the grounding of a US Navy
>  > vessel  off Pearl Harbour in February..
>  >
>  > You'll need to copy-and-paste the links, I suspect.
>  >
>  > George.
>  >
>  > 
http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/20090707/NEWS08/907070350/Hawaii-based+ship%E2%80%99s+grounding+detailed
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http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/20090712/COLUMNISTS32/907120367/Navy+ship+grounding+detailed
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