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    Re: Fw: Grounding of cruiser PORT ROYAL
    From: Henry Halboth
    Date: 2009 Jul 15, 20:50 -0700
    George,

    IMHO, you sure got this one right

    Regards,

    Henry

    --- On Wed, 7/15/09, George Huxtable <george{at}hux.me.uk> wrote:

    From: George Huxtable <george{at}hux.me.uk>
    Subject: [NavList 9097] Re: Fw: Grounding of cruiser PORT ROYAL
    To: NavList@fer3.com
    Date: Wednesday, July 15, 2009, 4:27 PM


    I know nothing of Pearl Harbour, or about the way naval vessels conduct
    themselves, but these words struck me as ominous-

    "Bridge watch team, navigation, and (Combat Information Center) team did not
    work together to assess situation and keep the ship from standing into
    danger," the report says.

    That seems to be navigation by committee. All it needed was one man with a
    chart, prepared to look out of the bridge windows, and make the occasional
    visit to the bridge wings to take a few bearings. And the authority to ask
    for the way to be taken off, in a hurry!

    In this case, there seem to have been too many fingers in the pie, with an
    overdose of technology.

    George.

    contact George Huxtable, at  george{at}hux.me.uk
    or at +44 1865 820222 (from UK, 01865 820222)
    or at 1 Sandy Lane, Southmoor, Abingdon, Oxon OX13 5HX, UK.
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "hch" <h.halboth---.com>
    To: <NavList@fer3.com>
    Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 8:20 PM
    Subject: [NavList 9096] Re: Fw: Grounding of cruiser PORT ROYAL



    Amen. Greg - but my, you are too kind.

    I am well familar with the reef area off the Honolulu Airport runway, having
    some years ago refloated a stranded vessel from the exact location
    described. She mistook the airport lights for the Harbor Entrance and went
    up on the reef at 4-bells + a jingle.

    There is little or no excuse for a ship going aground in this area - unless
    loss of situational awareness simply means not keeping a lookout; of course
    keeping enough water under the keel is also helpful - so the fathometer was
    not workng; what happened to the hand lead - at one time Navy Regs required
    a leadsman in the chain when entering or leaving port or coming to anchor.
    Oh well, times do change.

    Also "soft grounding" is a new term to me. How many millions in repair costs
    define the dividing line.

    Regards,

    Henry


    --- On Wed, 7/15/09, Greg Rudzinski <gregrudzinski---.com> wrote:


    From: Greg Rudzinski <gregrudzinski---.com>
    Subject: [NavList 9094] Re: Fw: Grounding of cruiser PORT ROYAL
    To: "NavList" <NavList@fer3.com>
    Date: Wednesday, July 15, 2009, 11:37 AM



    The news article did not mention anything about radar utilization or
    wether there was a harbor pilot aboard. Hmmm...even on a shake down
    cruise with a sleep deprived (hung over ?) skeleton crew this should
    not have happened. Maintaining a tug escort out of dry dock until all
    systems are confirmed functional would have been prudent. Simple radar
    ranging would have saved the day for sure.

    Greg

    On Jul 14, 10:27 am, "George Huxtable" <geo...{at}hux.me.uk> wrote:
    > I wonder whether this will be of interest, about the grounding of a US
    > Navy
    > vessel off Pearl Harbour in February..
    >
    > You'll need to copy-and-paste the links, I suspect.
    >
    > George.
    >
    > http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/20090707/NEWS08/907070350/H...
    >
    > http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/20090712/COLUMNISTS32/90712...









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