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Re: Finding longitude in the 12th century
From: Alexandre Eremenko
Date: 2012 Sep 1, 11:08 -0400
From: Alexandre Eremenko
Date: 2012 Sep 1, 11:08 -0400
In 1596, Barentsz expedition spent winter in a camp on Novaia Zemlia island. The exact location is known, because the house they built and remains of their stuff survived. It is 76d15'5 N, 68d16'2 E, you can see a photo of this home in Wikipedia on "Barentsz". Now, I read the detailed account of one participant of this expedition (de Veer). My impression is that Barentsz (and de Veer) were highly educated people, and knew everything relevant to navigation which was available at that time. They determined their coordinates as 76d N, 87d21' E. The instruments and tables they used are not described in detail, but there are all reasons to assume that they were the best available. And this was not a determination at sea; they had a land observatory, where they spent almost a year... (Barentsz was in fact the navigator of the expedition). I conclude that in the end of XVI century, it was possible to determine latitude to 10-15 miles, perhaps a bit better. But the longitude only very approximately, almost useless for navigation. They used an occultation of the Moon by Jupiter plus dead reconning, plus some places with "known" longitude. Perhaps I have to add that the place of their expedition was not "uninhabited", and Novaia Zemlia was regularly visited by the Russians at that time. (In fact they helped and saved Barentsz expedition). But they had no idea of longitude at that time:-) Alex.