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Re: Faint stars easier to find on the horizon first?
From: Henry Halboth
Date: 2004 May 28, 13:00 -0400
From: Henry Halboth
Date: 2004 May 28, 13:00 -0400
Navigators customarily cross Venus with the Sun or Moon during daylight hours when above the horizon. Pre-comutation of altitude and azimuth makes this an extremely easy sight with no technical jargon necessary - even the lowest power telescope is usually adequate. As I have before posted, good star/planet sights require pre computation of altitude and azimuth which generally allows observations of the brighter stars and planets within 5 to 10 minutes before/after sunrise/sunset, depending on Latitude. You will never be successful in obtaining star fixes if you wait to see the body with the naked eye - this of course include Polaris which is also an extremely easy sight in the higher northern Latitudes, although no longer as important as it was in bygone day. The important point is taking these (or for that matter any) sights on the beat horizon possible and as twilight advances there is usually a rapid deterioration in the distinctness thereof. On Fri, 28 May 2004 08:55:36 +0000 "Trevor J. Kenchington"writes: > Doug Royer, extending standard technique from faint stars to the > brightest of planets, wrote: > > > Try this trick also on Venus as one may view Venus in early C.T. > when > > conditions are right. > > If you know just where to look, Venus can be visible to the naked > eye in > full daylight. I have only tried finding it the once but, that time, > I > did find it. Needed some concentration to keep it in sight though, > since > you have to look in exactly the right place or it disappears. (Maybe > it > needs the higher resolution of your retina's fovea to be able to > distinguish the small patch of brighter light from the general > brightness of a blue sky.) > > Why can't we use Venus to get a day-time position line? I'm guessing > that a sextant telescope doesn't help because its light-gathering > power > brightens the blue sky as much as the planet, meaning that it is no > easier to hold the image with a sextant than to view Venus with a > naked > eye, hence making the observation impractical. > > > Trevor Kenchington > > > -- > Trevor J. Kenchington PhD Gadus@iStar.ca > Gadus Associates, Office(902) > 889-9250 > R.R.#1, Musquodoboit Harbour, Fax (902) > 889-9251 > Nova Scotia B0J 2L0, CANADA Home (902) > 889-3555 > > Science Serving the Fisheries > http://home.istar.ca/~gadus >