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    From: Doug Royer
    Date: 2005 Apr 4, 16:51 -0700

    Well, I changed my email address so I had to re-up on list.I wished to
    respond to this thread so I'm forwarding it.
    Subject: RE: On whinging and moaning
    Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 16:15:41 -0700
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    "it is a stage for querulous old men to strut their egos while exposing
    their erudition"
    Well, it doesn't need much textual analysis to deduce that it's me he is
    attacking: and not for the first time.
    I can't answer for who was Peter's target,if any. What I do know is this
    site can be intimadating to new members.It was intimadating to me when I 1st
    came on and since then I have had more than 1 private message from
    younger(newer)members.Some of those members no longer post online because of
    the intimadation factor or their veiwing of topics.Perhaps they view topics
    discussed here as mundaine or only want to go into a topic so far.Some of
    what is discussed here can get abstract.
    A case in point: some of my posts have no relation to "navigation" topics as
    the list is set up for.I post my perspectives on a subject or raise a new
    subject.If someone is interested in persueing the topic we write back and
    forth untill satisfied.That way the whole list isn't subjected to a topic
    that only interests a few.
    My "Mixter's and radar" thread is a great example of this.1 online post and
    about 2 dozen offlist
    inquiries and answers.
    I greatly respect George and all on this list for the in dept discussions on
    subjects.There are personalities on onlist that ruffle my feathers at times
    just like I know I do to them.But through all that I've increased my
    understanding of things by getting past that and reading what is written.
    Frank,about a year ago,wrote an excellant paper dealing with his procedure
    of calculating/shooting star to star angles.I use that procedure from time
    to time.Frank is one that can ruffle my feathers.But I looked past that and
    gained something.
    Just a short time ago someone wrote of useing a gps for(I believe)sight
    reduction.When I 1st read it I thought "well,interesting but I don't see how
    because my gps unit isn't set up that way.But at least this guy is
    thinking."After reading the responces I started to really think about what
    he wrote.I printed all of it and will get to it when I've got time to see if
    it really does work as stated.
    When I check my mail every couple of days I look through what was sent to
    the list,delete subjects I'm not interested in offhand and then open any
    that I think may interest me.Sometimes later I may go back to the archives
    and sample a few of those subjects to see if I have an interest.Sometimes I
    do,sometimes I don't.
    The subject of LUNARS gets deleted offhand.I have no interest.
    For every person who leaves the list(for any reason)we all lose
    something.Everyone here has worth.
    Just my thoughts.

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