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    Re: Exercise #15 CORRECTION
    From: Giuseppe Menga
    Date: 2008 Jun 15, 12:02 +0200
    All refraction correction under standard conditions
     
    estim pos at 12h 15° 14'N, 145° 0.5'E distance run 36 nm
    estim pos at 12h 23m 20s 15° 14'N, 144° 55.6'E
     
    by estimating departures at 12h 23m 20s dep = deltaLong/COS(Lat) = 40.7 nm
    speed made good is 13 kn
    with this new speed the estim. pos. at 12h 23m 20s is corrected to 15° 13.5'N, 144° 54.8'E
    From previous fix DR position at 16h 03m 42s is 15° 13.5'N, 144° 5.3'E Sun Zn 287.5° (compass Least error East)
    286.4-287.5 = -1.1° (east) error of gyro
    deviation of the magnetic compass for course 275 dev = 286-274.6+1.3 = +12.7 W (isn't too much??)
    DR at 16h 45m 15°N 13.52' 143°E 56.09'
    Twilight at sunset (LMT) GMT = LMT - 143.9/15 (8h 54m)
    (LMT) sunset           start             end            Sun Zn
           18:29:59        18:53:39       19:21:35     294°13.35'
    stars (middle of the twilight) Date and time 10.6.2008      09:06:00 UT; G.H.A. Aries      :   35°35.71
    Mag.   Name Const./SD   G.H.A.        decl.     S.H.A.    Zn Azimuth  h altitude     L.H.A.           HP
    to EAST           
    0.2  Arcturus   alBoo    181°34.58'   19° 8.26'  145°58.88'   78°11.47'   56°52.29'  325°30.66'
    0.1  Vega       alLyr    116°16.83'   38°47.33'   80°41.13'   50°13.91'    2° 6.17'  260°12.91'
    to South
    0.9  Hadar      beCen    184°28.82'  -60°25.15'  148°53.12'  164°46.10'   10°13.04'  328°24.90'
    0.1  Rigil Kent alCen    175°32.45'  -60°52.52'  139°56.75'  161°24.37'    7°19.76'  319°28.54'
    to North
    1.7  Alioth     epUMa    201°59.19'   55°55.00'  166°23.49'   11°43.93'   47°54.06'  345°55.27'
    to West
    -11.7Moon       15.40    228°30.30'    3° 4.63'  192°54.60'  226°28.69'   72°44.63'   12°26.38'      56.50863'   
    1.5  Mars        0.04    255°10.47'   16°52.77'  219°34.77'  278° 1.91'   52°26.34'   39° 6.56'
    0.7  Saturn      0.14    240° 5.01'   12° 2.01'  204°29.31'  265°11.94'   66°27.25'   24° 1.09'
    0.6  Betelgeuse alOri    306°41.43'    7°24.58'  271° 5.73'  277°18.86'    1°20.54'   90°37.51'
    0.5  Procyon    alCMi    280°39.66'    5°12.24'  245° 3.96'  268°25.72'   25°51.16'   64°35.74'
    1.3  Regulus    alLeo    243°23.31'   11°55.57'  207°47.61'  266°19.27'   63°15.27'   27°19.39'
    -1.6 Sirius     alCMa    294°13.10'  -16°43.65'  258°37.40'  250°38.35'    6°33.19'   78° 9.19'
    Compass checking at twilight Gyro error 294.7- 294.2 = 0.5° W, magnetic compass deviation at 180° -10° (E) ?
    Fix at 18h 15m  14°N 55.31' 143°E 59.68'
    Fix by adding Sun, Moon and stars observations assuming 13 kn speed and 180° course at 19:00
    14°N 45.99' 143°E 59.66'
    Fix by using only the two stars                                                            
    14°N 51.29' 144°E  2.58'
    which of the two is the best?
     
    It is like a licence examination, however I used my program instead of the tables - How did I perfom, did I pass it, can I apply for a position?
    Giuseppe
    ----- Original Message -----
    Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 2:11 AM
    Subject: [NavList 5454] Re: Exercise #15 CORRECTION

    No you didn't do anything wrong, I did.  I had a typo with the Latitude.  The Latitude is 15deg 14.0' North for departure.   That will give you a better answer.
     
    Sorry about that.
     
    Jeremy
     
    In a message dated 6/15/2008 6:33:28 A.M. West Pacific Standard Time, menga@polito.it writes:

    Jeremy,
    On my account at 14°14' N (the course is due west, so no change of latitude)
    on the meridian passage the 10-6-2008 (decl. 23° 1.91'N) the height of the
    sun was 81°12.10', taking into account all corrections Hs should be almost
    1° lower than yours. Did I do something wrong?
    Giuseppe
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Anabasis" <jcaoy@yahoo.com>
    To: "NavList" <NavList@fer3.com>
    Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2008 10:26 AM
    Subject: [NavList 5443] Exercise #15 Day's Run (almost)



    Exercise #15  Day’s Run (almost)

    There has been some request from members of the group to have an “old
    school” exercise where “DR’s” are actual dead reckoning positions and
    not GPS fixes; giving us a bit of ambiguity as to where the vessel was
    at the time of the sight.  This exercise should fit that description.
    The scenario is departing anchorage and then heading out to sea, where
    position and other celestial checks will be done throughout the day.
    The only given position will be the departure point, and all sights
    will be based on the previous reductions and running DR tracks.
    This scenario is the exact trip we made on 10 June 2008 from
    departure until the end of my evening watch at 20h 00m.

    For all sights, height of eye is 106 ft, Index error is 0.0.  All
    times are local zone time, and the ship is keeping  ZD-10.  The local
    date is 10 June 2008.

    A ship takes departure from the Saipan anchorage at 9h 00m local
    time.  Position is fixed by visual and radar LOP’s and is determined
    to be Lat 14deg 14.0’ N; Longitude 145deg 38’ East.  The ship steams
    on a course of 270 deg True at making turns (engine speed) for 12.0
    knots.

    At 10h 25m 59s, a lower limb observation of the sun is made.  Hs is
    62deg 22.4’.  Temp is 85deg F Pressure is 1010 MB.

    At 12h 19m LAN is observed.  The Hs of the lower limb of the sun is
    82deg 06.0’.  Temp is 98 deg F Pressure is 1010 MB.  Soon after LAN,
    the navigator sees that the moon has risen and takes an observation of
    the upper limb of the moon.  Hs is 6deg 20.8’ at 12h 23m 20s.
    Determine a running 12h 00m fix (noon position).  Also determine
    distance run as well as course and speed made good since departure.

    At 16h 03m 42s a PM Azimuth of the Sun is observed on the starboard
    gyro repeater.  The sun’s observed bearing is 286.4 degrees PGC.  The
    course PGC is 273.5 degrees, Variation from the chart is 1.3 degrees
    East.  Course per magnetic steering compass is 286.0 degrees.
    Determine Gyro error and Deviation on this heading.

    At 1645 the ship alters course to 180 degrees true, maintaining 12.0
    knots.

    At 17h 25m 20s, a lower limb observation of the sun is made.  Temp is
    95deg Pressure is 1010MB. Hs is 18deg 55.6’

    Star time approaches, determine sunset, time of stars, determine LHA
    of Aries, and select stars to be shot.

    Around 18h 15m, the moon approaches Meridian Transit (LAM).  The
    following data is collected:
    Moon UL: Hs 78deg 34.9’ at 18h 11m 58s
    Moon UL: Hs 78deg 37.5’ at 18h 13m 03s
    Moon UL: Hs 78deg 37.2’ at 18h 13m 41s
    Moon UL: Hs 78deg 36.4’ at 18h 14m 20s
    Moon UL: Hs 78deg 37.2’ at 18h 14m 46s
    Moon UL: Hs 78deg 36.1’ at 18h 15m 27s
    Moon UL: Hs 78deg 35.7’ at 18h 16m 12s
    Moon UL: Hs 78deg 35.4’ at 18h 16m 42s
    Moon UL: Hs 78deg 34.2’ at 18h 17m 10s
    Moon UL: Hs 78deg 33.4’ at 18h 17m 42s
    Sun UL: Hs 7deg 27.2’ at 18h 18m 33s
    Sun UL: Hs 7deg 15.8’ at 18h 19m 17s
    Sun UL: Hs 7 deg 08.8’ at 18h 19m 50s
    Sun UL: Hs 7 deg 01.2’ at 18h 20m 27s
    Determine the 18h 15m fix.

    As the sun was near setting, an amplitude was observed on the
    Celestial Horizon.  The sun’s bearing was 294.7 degrees.  The ship was
    steering 180 PGC, 168 per magnetic compass, and the variation off of
    the chart was 1.3 degrees East.  Determine Magnetic Deviation at this
    heading.

    PM star time was poor with clouds and a hazy horizon.  Only two bodies
    were observed.  Temp was 84 deg F, pressure is 1010MB.
    Arcturus was shot at 19h 20m 51s Hs is 60deg 34.0’
    Dubhe was observed at 19h 13m 53s  Hs is 41deg 58.6.
    Determine the 1900 star fix.

    Have fun
    Jeremy



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