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    Re: R: Re: Exercise #14 Multi-Moon LOP's
    From: Mike Burkes
    Date: 2008 Aug 9, 14:16 -0700

    
    Hi FR and all and yes FR I would love to see your dad's data and thanks much. 
    Regarding no 14 I treated it as a running fix by retarding my AP of 14d N, 
    143d 03.4 E (HO 249) 1.8 nm 260d, solving from there, and arriving at EP 14d 
    15.4 N, 142d 53.3 E. I also treated GPS fix as DR. 
    Mike Burkes
    >
    > Jeremy,
    > you're right, what I got is only an estimated position, which is meaningless
    > unless the 1900 ZT position is considered a DR position as it used to happen
    > before GPS.
    > I still have some navigation notes that my father took when he was an
    > Italian merchant marine deck officer. They are real life celnav problems and
    > if anyone is interested I would be glad to post some of them here.
    > Federico
    >
    > -----Messaggio originale-----
    > Da: NavList@fer3.com [mailto:NavList@fer3.com] Per conto di
    > Anabasis
    > Inviato: venerd� 8 agosto 2008 22.26
    > A: NavList
    > Oggetto: [NavList /] Re: Exercise #14 Multi-Moon LOP's
    >
    >
    > Frederico,
    >
    > Glad you worked them out. I didn't bother posting a solution as
    > such. Basically the given 1900 ZT position is a GPS fix, so that is
    > what we can assume to be the true position, and the celestial fix is
    > an error check of the GPS position (please no arguements on this point
    > as it is beyond the scope of this exercise.)
    >
    > I plugged each moonline into my celestial program (SkyMate Pro) as
    > individual moon LOP's. The computer then compared them and gave me a
    > fix of 14 deg 14.9' North; Longitude 142 deg 51.9' East. This is a
    > 1.7 nm error as compared to the 1900 fix via GPS.
    >
    > The trouble with crossing an averaged LOP in this case with a course
    > line is that it does not give us a fix, but rather an "estimated
    > position."
    >
    > This is an experiment I did to see if a fairly large number of sights
    > of the same body, shot in a relatively short period of time, could
    > give us a position of reasonable accuracy away from meridian transit.
    > As we can see, it is fairly accurate, certainly accurate enough for a
    > deep sea position. The position probably would be more accurate if
    > the azimuth of the body was greater then 5.5 degrees, but that is why
    > I shot the moon, as the azimuth is changing rapidly, even away from
    > the time or meridian transit.
    >
    > Jeremy
    >
    >
    > >
    
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