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Re: Estimating height of eye
From: Marcel Tschudin
Date: 2013 Apr 11, 19:38 +0300
From: Marcel Tschudin
Date: 2013 Apr 11, 19:38 +0300
Thank you, Richard Langley, for providing this information and giving an idea on the sort of attainable accuracy with consumer products. Marcel On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 3:48 PM, Richard B. Langleywrote: > ________________________________ > > Sorry for being late in providing more information but the life of a prof is > a busy one, well, at least for me. You want to determine a height difference > of a few metres at the same location with an accuracy of hopefully 10%. If > the height difference is 3 metres, say. then you are looking for 30 cm, one > sigma. Then you will need to make carrier-phase measurements using a > survey-grade GNSS (GNSS = global navigation satellite systems, including > GPS, GLONASS, etc.) receiver and process them using either the precise point > positioning technique or double-differencing with respect to a reference > station. I think pseudorange measurements are just too noisy to give you the > desired accuracy even in differential mode. > > Attached are a few slides from my external Differential GNSS Course (to be > given next in Nashville in September at the ION meeting). The first shows > the different kinds of positioning available with GNSS, then horizontal and > vertical positioning accuracies with standalone pseudorange measurements > (like those used by handheld receivers) but as determined at some FAA > monitoring stations, then WAAS-corrected position accuracies using the same > stations. > > To get back to celnav, I will have to determine the height of my eye when I > go to the Big Island of Hawaii a couple of weeks from now at a house up from > Kona with a nice view of the Pacific. I'll do some GPS height averaging but > as I'm just taking my plastic Davis sextant, I'm not looking for high > accuracy, just a bit of fun, to break up the monotony of sitting around the > pool. ;-) > > -- Richard Langley > > > > > On 2013-04-10, at 3:45 PM, Marcel Tschudin wrote: > >> >> @ Richard Langley >> >> I noticed from your contributions and publications that you seem to be >> more deeply involved in the subject of GPS. May I therefore ask you: >> Do you have an idea on the sort of accuracy one may "generally" expect >> when measuring with GPS at the same location (few tenths of meter >> distance) height *differences* between about 2 and 5 m ? Would it be >> possible to measure at the two locations the height and obtain their >> difference to about +/- 20% or even better to e.g. +/- 10% and what >> type of equipment would this require? >> >> Thanks in advance for some hints. > > [[rest snipped]] > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > | Richard B. Langley E-mail: lang---ca | > | Geodetic Research Laboratory Web: http://www.unb.ca/GGE/ > | > | Dept. of Geodesy and Geomatics Engineering Phone: +1 506 453-5142 > | > | University of New Brunswick Fax: +1 506 453-4943 > | > | Fredericton, N.B., Canada E3B 5A3 > | > | Fredericton? Where's that? See: http://www.fredericton.ca/ > | > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > Attached File: 123517.slides_from_ion_dgnss_course.pdf (no preview > available) > > : http://fer3.com/arc/m2.aspx?i=123517