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    Re: Easter Island, and boxhauling
    From: E.R.Kooi
    Date: 2002 Oct 27, 17:11 +0100

    Dear navigators, a bit late but I, being a Dutchman, could not resist to
    react to the remarks made about "boxhauling" and "bak zeil".
    
    A rather common expression in the Dutch language is "bakzeilhalen", meaning
    in non-sailing terms "back out of it", "go back on it", "back down"
    etcetera. It is however an original sailing term meaning "to back the sails"
    in such a way that the wind stops the ship or even forces it backwards.
    I therefore think that it is quite probable that boxhauling is coming from
    bakzeilhalen. One of the meanings of "halen" is pull; thus "bakzeilhalen"
    means "pulling back the sails".
    
    Fr. gr. Eppo R. Kooi.
    
    > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
    > Van: Navigation Mailing List
    >
    > Hal Mueller's posting from Easter Island included:
    > ..........
    > Why is it called "boxhauling"?  There's a Dutch expression "bak
    > zeil", back sail, which means to renege on a promise; it sounds like
    > it also has the connotation of reneging surreptitiously or
    > indirectly, equivocating.  I'm no linguist, but I'm certain that
    > "boxhauling" is derived from that Dutch expression.
    
    
    

       
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