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Re: Dip-meter again
From: Lu Abel
Date: 2012 Apr 11, 14:15 -0700
From: Lu Abel
Date: 2012 Apr 11, 14:15 -0700
Let's be clear here.
The "B" in ICBM stands for ballistic -- following a preselected ballistic path like an artillery shell, not under active guidance. From a weaponry standpoint, you can't jam or interfere with something that's strictly on a ballistic trajectory.
BUT ... when a missile is fired from a silo or other launch facility, it has to get into the correct ballistic trajectory. That's where an INS came into play. INS served as a guidance-just-after-launch capability, not as guidance throughout the missile's flight.
From: Alexandre E Eremenko <eremenko@math.purdue.edu>
To: NavList@fer3.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2012 1:25 PM
Subject: [NavList] Re: Dip-meter again
Gary,
Sorry, I don't understand the meaning of your "No" :-)
Inertial system was also developed for submarine.
But what I was discussing was the MISSLE GUIDANCE SYSTEM.
Which according to Wikipedia was inertial.
The submarine could use any navigation system, and I suppose
inertial one was less accurate than Cel Nav.
And that Transit was developed with the explicit purpose
(or one of the purposes) to improve the missle submarine navigation.
Again, I learn this from the Wikipedia article).
So apparently inertial nav for a submarine, was not sufficient.
Alex.
On Tue, 10 Apr 2012, Gary LaPook wrote:
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> No, the INS was for the submarine and came in, I believe, in the late '50s, for some reason 1957 sticks in my head.
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> Also there were other electronic systems that provided accurate navigation. LORAN-A, since WW2, LORAN-C in the '70s, and OMEGA.
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> gl
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> --- On Tue, 4/10/12, Alexandre E Eremenko <eremenko---purdue.edu> wrote:
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> From: Alexandre E Eremenko <eremenko---purdue.edu>
> Subject: [NavList] Re: Dip-meter again
> To: NavList@fer3.com
> Date: Tuesday, April 10, 2012, 11:52 AM
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> Fred,
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> I suppose that when speaking of "inertial nav" as a guidance system,
> they mean the nav of the missile itself, not of the submarine.
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> To use an inertiale nav in the missle one needs the position
> of the starting point. This is what Sat nav was for.
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> Now we see Shufeldt's report in new light:-)
> The reaseach was made in 1957-1961 :-)
> And then classified.
> Exactly at the time when they developed the Polaris A-1 missile...
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> When Transit became available, they declassified the Shufeldt report.
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> So now we know what "Precision Cel nav" was really for:-)
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> Alex.
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