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    Re: Degrees and minutes vs decimal degrees and the Daily Pages
    From: Rommel John Miller
    Date: 2015 Oct 18, 19:18 -0400

    Ah, but doesn’t the ability to magnify the vernier scale really image make all the difference? 


    Why the manufactures stopped installing magnifying glasses on the arms of sextants is beyond me. 


    The idea of snapping a pic and then downloading it and magnifying it that way is time consuming. 


    When you need a report right at the time the assistant calls mark! or kicks you lightly in the foot, you have to have a locked in position to report.   


    If the arm can be mobilized and not subject to jarring until you can get back to the chart table, fine, but even a calm sea will subject even an aircraft carrier to “choppiness.”


    Therefore, the best reading is that taken at the time of MARK because that is what the navigator got at the moment of time’s mark and his sighting. 


    It’s not as complicated as it sounds, and yet a drum just makes reading the minutes a lot easier and convenient. 


    Vernier’s serve a purpose when the precision of one minute either way won’t make that much of a difference.  That is why they were used in lifeboats, not that survivors have to be all that precise, just to know where they are in general.  And to pray for being spotted.  The Hitchcock movie “Lifeboat” is a good character study of what lifeboat life is like.   


    Leave vernier scales for the life rafts and boats, and keep the micrometer drum for everyday and standard use.  That is why the Davis Mk 3 deserves a spot in every ditch bag.   Its durable enough to be bumped and tossed about and it isn’t a cumbersome balanced instrument the way a “real” sextant is.  “real” is relative in that all sextants vernier or drum will give you a report, how valuable and precise the report you get is another and the REAL story. 


    Rommel John Miller

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    From: NavList@fer3.com [mailto:NavList@fer3.com] On Behalf Of David Pike
    Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2015 4:12 PM
    To: rommeljohnmiller@gmail.com
    Subject: [NavList] Re: Degrees and minutes vs decimal degrees andtheDaily Pages


    Stan you said "vernier sextants are impossible to use anyway ;-)"

    I'm not sure what you meant by that.  Did you mean sextants with the vernier against the arc, or sextants with a vernier against the drum?  Did you mean the vernier itself was impossible to use, or were you referring to the fact that they're probably quite old and have smaller mirrors than todays sextants and the marks on the arc are getting worn?  Perhaps you just meant you have to stare at the reading for a long time to make sense of it.  I suppose that's why the old sextants had a swing-over magnifying glass.  My attempt below would have been OK if I'd just had a bit more patience shaping the edge, but I was running out of time.  I can't even remember now if I was supposed to make it one division too large or too small or if it mattered.  I don't think I used the dividing engine as I did on the arc (you might say "That's pretty obvious").  It appears to be reading 67° 47'.  DaveP

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