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    Re: DR navigation in the recreatiional fleet: was Role of CN at sea
    From: Jim Thompson
    Date: 2004 Oct 13, 20:55 -0300

    Lisa, I would much prefer to sail long distances with a navigator of your
    philosophy.  I admit my personality and somewhat obsessive tendency to
    document stuff.  And yes, what you describe is the Power & Sail Squadron
    approach to teaching recreational navigation.
    On a long trip I would do what you suggest.  On our short-distance cruises
    in our Maritime province waters I keep periodic notes as I steam along
    regarding weather, sea state and approximate position, while my GPS records
    an electronic log of exact speed, course and position.  But I do not keep
    the kind of detailed log that we kept in training.
    I doubt that the procedure you describe, or even my more limited practice,
    are common among coastal cruisers, at least based on conversations I have
    had with fellow boaters.  It certainly is not the practice on short-distance
    (40-100 mile) coastal trips in these parts, and does not appear to be the
    common practice of those who sail south periodically either.
    Jim Thompson
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    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: Navigation Mailing List on Behalf Of Lisa Fiene
    > Just wanted to check with all of you, as instructors, on some thoughts
    > which have come to mind reading through this thread.
    > Is it in your experience that recreational sailors/cruisers actually
    > write down their lat/long, log speed, SOG, course steered, wind
    > strength/direction, barometric pressure, sea state etc in a log?  Do
    > they then physically mark the position on their chart (allowing for set
    > and drift)?  Do you as instructors teach this?
    > I very much remember being taught this navigation discipline from a man
    > who had sailed around the world.  He was constantly checking, writing,
    > comparing, plotting.  He could not stress to me enough the importance of
    > good navigational seamanship, and mainly WRITING DOWN and CHARTING where
    > you are on a regular basis.  On passages, he would write down this
    > information at least every 2 hours in the log, and would make sure that
    > when he wasn't on watch, that the person following him did the same
    > also.  Sights were taken morning noon and twilight, and compared with
    > GPS, and written down.
    > These skills were really drilled into me, and I can't actually
    > comprehend navigating any other way.  He taught me how to navigate.
    > What are instructors teaching students now?  I'm most interested to hear
    > your comments.

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