Welcome to the NavList Message Boards.

NavList:

A Community Devoted to the Preservation and Practice of Celestial Navigation and Other Methods of Traditional Wayfinding

Compose Your Message

Message:αβγ
Message:abc
Add Images & Files
    Name or NavList Code:
    Email:
       
    Reply
    Re: Cocked hats, again.
    From: Gary LaPook
    Date: 2007 Mar 16, 12:57 -0700

    Gary laPook wrote:
    
    On Mar 15, 6:04 pm, "P F"  wrote:
    > Gary wrote:
    > > his true position may be significantly outside the cocked
    > > hat
    >
    > Oh come on, Gary. How would the "true position" get to be "significantly
    > outside"?
    
    
    
    Easy. If by chance plotting the LOPs resulted in a small triangle this
    doesn't mean that sigma is necessarily small. So in that case the true
    position will lie in the circles of probability that are larger than
    the triangle. So, for example, picking a number for sigma out of the
    air of one nautical mile, the position of the observer will be
    somewhere within the one mile circle (one sigma) centered on the
    plotted fix only 39.3% of the time and within a circle of  1.177 sigma
    (1.177 NM)  50% of the time. This circle is also known as CEP or
    circular probable error. Continuing drawing circles, 66% within 1.48
    NM, 75% within 1.67 NM,  90% within 2.15 NM, 99%  within 3 nm and
    99.9% of the time within 3.72 NM. Put another way, one third of the
    time  the position will be more than 1.48 NM away, 10% of the time the
    position will be more than 2.15 NM from the plotted fix and 1 % more
    than 3 NMs away.
    At the other end of the distribution there is only a 10% chance that
    the position of the observer will be within .48 NM of the fix. ( See
    table Q6c of Appendix Q on page 1221 of vol. 1 of Bowditch, 1977
    ed.)So, what does this tell us. There is about a 30% chance that the
    position of the observer will be more than .48 NM but less than 1.0 NM
    and about a 61% chance that the position of the observer will be more
    than 1.0 NM from the plotted fix.
    
    If the triangle plots with LOPs only one half mile from the center
    then there is approximately a 1 in three chance that your position
    could be up to 1 NM outside the triangle, a 10 % chance that it is
    1.65 NM outside and a 1% chance that it is 2.5 NM outside.
    
    Even if you don't know what the sigma numerically is it doesn't mean
    that it doesn't exist and that you can ignore it.
    
    By "significantly" I mean rocks in the bilge.
    
    
    
    
    
    
    --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~
    To post to this group, send email to NavList@fer3.com
    To , send email to NavList-@fer3.com
    -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
    
    

       
    Reply
    Browse Files

    Drop Files

    NavList

    What is NavList?

    Get a NavList ID Code

    Name:
    (please, no nicknames or handles)
    Email:
    Do you want to receive all group messages by email?
    Yes No

    A NavList ID Code guarantees your identity in NavList posts and allows faster posting of messages.

    Retrieve a NavList ID Code

    Enter the email address associated with your NavList messages. Your NavList code will be emailed to you immediately.
    Email:

    Email Settings

    NavList ID Code:

    Custom Index

    Subject:
    Author:
    Start date: (yyyymm dd)
    End date: (yyyymm dd)

    Visit this site
    Visit this site
    Visit this site
    Visit this site
    Visit this site
    Visit this site