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    Re: Celnav At The Usna And More
    From: Stacy Hanna
    Date: 2004 Jan 29, 17:34 -0500

    Joel,

    I don’t have any contacts at the academy right now, so I’m sure your information on classes is better than I have right now. Your information sounds like it is probably correct based on an instruction from CINCLANTFLT that recommends that STELLA be used for all sight reduction. Currently the Officer assigned to the ship as Navigator and the Senior QM are required to take a celestial navigation course which utilizes pubs 229 and 249. That is one of the courses that I teach and I haven’t heard any rumors about changing either the course or the requirement for it.  You are correct about the move to electronic charting to replace paper charts. When the new NAVDORM comes out (expected in March), I will have more information on changes to Navy policy regarding navigation (although it wont address training at the academy or in ROTC). From my experience the only officers coming into the Navy that really have a good understanding of celestial navigation are the graduates of the various Merchant Marine Academies and it has been that way for quite a while now. One other item that people might not be aware of is that NIMA has changed their name again, they are now NGA (the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency).

     

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Navigation Mailing List [mailto:NAVIGATION-L@LISTSERV.WEBKAHUNA.COM] On Behalf Of Joel Jacobs
    Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 15:53
    To: NAVIGATION-L@LISTSERV.WEBKAHUNA.COM
    Subject: CELNAV AT THE USNA AND MORE

     

     

    TO: ALCON

     

    This took me a lot longer to deal with than expected due to the snow and ice storms pummeling the NE.

     

    Whatever Ken Gebhart heard is incorrect. The movement is in the exact opposite direction.

     

    This is my understanding and has no official standing.

     

    The plebes take NS 100 in their second semester of their first year which runs the gambit of the basics of piloting, dead reckoning, rules of the road etc.

     

    Link to NS 100: http://prodevweb.prodev.usna.edu/SeaNav/NS100/100info.htm

     

    The old Advanced Navigation course that was the first semester of the Youngster (second year) that delved into the theory and practice of CELNAV, and all other forms of navigation using techniques we all are familiar with including what the Navy calls the strip method, is out. There will still be some practical hands on experience will continue during the Summer Cruises on the YP's.

     

    Link to NN 204. This has not as yet been revised:

     

     

    The NEW advanced Navigation, NN 204, will only cover the practical aspects of CELNAV in two short sessions without any theory. The emphasis will be on using the software program called Stella, mentioned earlier by Stacy and me, in place of strips and tables. This software program includes sight reduction, DR and all the sailings.

     

    THE BIG CHANGE is that the Navy is embracing electronic charting to the exclusion of paper charts, and will adopt it fleetwide supposedly by 2007. NEMA is getting out of the charting business and some commercial operators are supposed to pick up the slack.

     

    But one big positive is that the entire brigade will be spending more time offshore in Navy boats such as the YP, and sailing fleet where in the past only maybe 25% of the mids had 4-6 weeks at sea in small craft.

     

    Any errors in my interpreting what was said are my own and should not reflect on anyone but me.

     

    Stacy, please feel free to add to this.

     

    Joel Jacobs

     

     

       
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