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    Re: Celestial arts and crafts
    From: Lu Abel
    Date: 2013 Mar 26, 13:04 -0700
    Definition of the noun "art" from the Miriam-Webster dictionary:

    1 : skill acquired by experience, study, or observation <the art of making friends>

    2a : a branch of learning: (1) : one of the humanities (2) plural : liberal arts
    2b archaic : learning, scholarship

    3 : an occupation requiring knowledge or skill <the art of organ building>

    4a : the conscious use of skill and creative imagination especially in the production of aesthetic objects; also : works so produced
    4b (1) : fine arts
    (2) : one of the fine arts (3) : a graphic art

    So, while we think of "art" as being an aesthetic object (painting, sculpture, etc), M-W's first definitions of "art" are centered around skill, especially that acquired by experience or study.  By that measure, a knowledge of celestial and especially being able to apply that knowledge skillfully to obtain one's position is certainly an "art"

    On 3/26/2013 9:37 AM, Hewitt Schlereth wrote:

    Frank, the reason I consider celestial an art is it requires judgement. Making art and making a landfall require both high skill with the tools of the trade and judgement to produce their results - expression in art, safe passage in celestial navigation.
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    On Mar 26, 2013, at 9:07 AM, "Frank Reed"  wrote:
    > This is a recurring topic for NavList: is celestial navigation an "art"? Hewitt has described it as an art in a few recent messages. If so, what does that mean? Painting landscapes is an art --even if you're bad at it, it is an ATTEMPT to create art as opposed to drawing mere representational surveys. How about painting houses? Is that an art --ever? Obviously celestial navigation has its origins in and is founded upon scientific and mathematical principles, so its foundations are generally considered the opposite of art. That doesn't preclude some sort of "art" in the practice. Or is this just semantics? Is a navigator an artist or an artisan or just a craftsman?
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