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    Re: Is Celestial Navigation really a backup to GPS Navigation?
    From: Francis Upchurch
    Date: 2018 Sep 22, 20:01 +0100

    Keep it up Frank. You are rarely wrong! Glad to hear you are human.
    We are in survival mode. You are the best. Just keep going.
    I've been teaching my kids and grandchildren CN and they love it, but they 
    would never join Navlist. (Old man's club for them).
    They do love face book , twitter etc but would never admit to their interest 
    in CN to their peers. How uncool and dinosaur is that!
    I'm amazed at the volume of traffic we still get.
    I guess astronomy is the nearest successful example. Still going strong after 
    thousands of years, with lots of youngsters pointing their cheep and fairly 
    good telescopes at Jupiter moons etc.
    I did a longitude from Jupiter with  a 14 year old recently. Not very 
    accurate, (30 miles out)but you should have seen the light in his eyes! His 
    IPad does not do this for him. Hope yet!
    I think astronomy is the model. Kids love it.
    Best wishes.
    -----Original Message-----
    From: NavList@fer3.com [mailto:NavList@fer3.com] On Behalf Of Frank Reed
    Sent: 20 September 2018 19:16
    To: francisupchurch@gmail.com
    Subject: [NavList] Re: Is Celestial Navigation really a backup to GPS Navigation?
    Tom Sult, you wrote:
    "I think this is worthy of a pause. Frank Reed was wrong?!  Not that he would 
    not (and obviously did) recognize it. It is just that in the 10 years or so 
    of being on this forum (not calling it “the list”, Frank) I have NEVER seen 
    any evidence of Frank being wrong. He is mortal. And the world is right 
    Mortal? Bah! I'm an Olympian sort of immortal --we make mistakes but learn 
    from them! Ha ha ha (I made the world wrong again).
    Alas, we are all mortal, including corporate entities like NavList itself. I 
    gave up last year on persuading everyone to stop referring to this 
    "community" as a mailing list (as "the list"). Can't teach old dogs new 
    tricks and all that, but more importantly, **there are no new dogs** and the 
    old dogs are running out of new topics to discuss. The way things are going 
    right now, NavList message traffic by the end of 2018 will probably be lower 
    than it has been since 2003, fifteen long years ago and dating back to before 
    I was even a member of the group. I encourage any and all of you to continue 
    spreading the word about the NavList community since it remains the 
    definitive, world's best online community for celestial navigation 
    discussions. Let's breathe some life into it.
    Frank Reed
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