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    Re: Can someone identify this
    From: Hewitt Schlereth
    Date: 2008 Nov 15, 00:24 -0400

    Lookin' good.
    
    BTW - I wonder if Phil Lange by any chance did the Friday NYT
    crossword?  I ask because "Roll up" was the clue for 49 Down.  Answer:
    amass.  :-)
    
    Hewitt
    
    On 11/14/08, engineer  wrote:
    >
    >  To report back, we now have a consortium of five, including me, to
    >  make bid of a realistic amount on
    >  the Zerbee Fix Finder.
    >
    >  Philip Lange writes off list "I might suggest a call for many off list
    >  small pledges - - no amount considered too small. " So roll up! Roll
    >  up!
    >
    >
    >  Bill
    >
    >
    >  On Nov 15, 8:12 am, engineer  wrote:
    >  > I invariably use a bidding engine for my bids on e-bay. This means I
    >  > have to have a firm view of the maximum I am prepared to pay, which of
    >  > course is related to what I think is the actual value of the item and
    >  > how badly I want it.
    >  >
    >  > Now that at least three people have indicated a willingness to
    >  > contribute, may I suggest that all who wish to contribute now let me
    >  > know off list how much? It would be useful to know too what
    >  > contributors think should be the maximum bid. At the moment, I have in
    >  > mind to match it up to a certain maxiumum sum, but we must be careful
    >  > to give no hint to those outside the "consortium" how much we have
    >  > available.
    >  >
    >  > If through this consortium the item ends up in my hands, I undertake
    >  > to write and publish to the list a full, illustrated description of it
    >  > and eventually to donate it to a museum. I see no problem in principle
    >  > with returning it to the USA and it doing the rounds of consortium
    >  > members before reaching its final resting place, despite shipping
    >  > costs of US$114.
    >  >
    >  > So, with 47 hours to go, speak now or for ever after hold your peace.
    >  >
    >  > Bill
    >  >
    >  > On Nov 15, 6:45 am, Fred Hebard  wrote:
    >  >
    >  >
    >  >
    >  > > This is all fine with me.  I'm in for up to $50, with no expectation
    >  > > of having any "rights" in the instrument, because of my reluctance to
    >  > > go to $100.
    >  >
    >  > > One comment would be to have a skilled EBay bidder do the buying,
    >  > > regardless of the ship to address.  Is Bill Morris adept at buying
    >  > > things on EBay?
    >  >
    >  > > Fred Hebard
    >  >
    >  > > On Nov 14, 2008, at 12:16 PM, George Huxtable wrote:
    >  >
    >  > > > Bill Morris, as "Engineer", wrote, about the instrument we have been
    >  > > > discussing-
    >  >
    >  > > > =================
    >  >
    >  > > > From: "engineer" 
    >  > > > To: "NavList" 
    >  > > > Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 2:19 AM
    >  > > > Subject: [NavList 6542] Re: Can someone identify this
    >  >
    >  > > > I'm interested in this item too and planned to bid on it. If I won the
    >  > > > bidding, I would take it apart, service it and put it together again
    >  > > > in a restored state. Then I would post detailed labelled photographs
    >  > > > for others to see. When tired of it, I would offer it to a museum for
    >  > > > what it cost me. I agree it would be a pity for it to rest in private
    >  > > > hands, undescribed and gathering dust. On the other hand, why should
    >  > > > North America have all the luck? People in out-of-the way places love
    >  > > > instruments too.
    >  >
    >  > > > Bill.
    >  >
    >  > > > ====================
    >  >
    >  > > > Comment from George-
    >  >
    >  > > > Well, if Bill Morris were to succeed in a bid, that would meet most
    >  > > > of my
    >  > > > own wishes, and I suspect those of several other listmembers, for
    >  > > > the future
    >  > > > of this special instrument.
    >  >
    >  > > > It would be rescued from locking away in a hidden private
    >  > > > collection; in the
    >  > > > end it would end up in a public museum; and in the interim it would be
    >  > > > examined for us by a real expert. The only snag is that of Bill's
    >  > > > location,
    >  > > > in a particularly isolated corner of New Zealand, which would,
    >  > > > unfortunately, require long-distance transporting of the item, and
    >  > > > put it
    >  > > > out of range of personal inspection of anyone other than Bill.
    >  >
    >  > > > Perhaps it would help if I pass on some details about Bill Morris,
    >  > > > who I've
    >  > > > got to know quite well, by email, over recent months. Originally from
    >  > > > Britain, for many years he has been a doctor in rural New Zealand,
    >  > > > having
    >  > > > retired now to an even more isolated spot, where he indulges in
    >  > > > precision
    >  > > > engineering, from a well-equipped workshop. Although not a navigator
    >  > > > himself, he has a particular interest is in sextants, and he claims
    >  > > > to have
    >  > > > restored altogether 28 such instruments of a wide range of types,
    >  > > > modern.and
    >  > > > less-modern, not on a profit-making basis but as a hobby.
    >  >
    >  > > > He is presently finishing-off a book (intended for distribution by
    >  > > > CD rather
    >  > > > than print) on the "intimate anatomy of the sextant". I've come in
    >  > > > because
    >  > > > he has asked me to scan it for any obvious errors, so I have been
    >  > > > privileged
    >  > > > to see a preview. Looking at the care he devotes to detailed
    >  > > > explanation and
    >  > > > description, illustrated by well-angled and notated colour photos and
    >  > > > diagrams, I would have no hesitation in entrusting to him this Fix
    >  > > > Finder
    >  > > > for a careful analysis, and hope that he would share his findings
    >  > > > with us as
    >  > > > he proceeds, before eventually passing it to a museum.
    >  >
    >  > > > So, if Bill is prepared to act on our behalf, as well as his own, in
    >  > > > bidding, I restate my offer of sharing (to a maximum of $100) in
    >  > > > the total
    >  > > > cost, if his bid succeeds, to give him some encouragement. Other
    >  > > > members
    >  > > > have expressed similar sentiments. The more that join in, the
    >  > > > higher the
    >  > > > chance of his success, and the less the burden will become on each
    >  > > > of us.
    >  >
    >  > > > One or two things need to be kept in mind here.
    >  >
    >  > > > There may well be a flurry of last-minute bids and the price may go
    >  > > > well
    >  > > > above its present $102.50. Indeed, the seller has set a reserve
    >  > > > price, which
    >  > > > we have no way of knowing, that has not yet been met.
    >  >
    >  > > > Although list members may contribute a "share" in the total cost,
    >  > > > that would
    >  > > > not be expected to result in any shared ownership of the item,
    >  > > > which would
    >  > > > become the sole property of the bidder. The whole operation would
    >  > > > have to
    >  > > > work on the basis of gentlemanly trust between all involved.
    >  >
    >  > > > If Bill Morris confirms his intention to bid on that basis, I would
    >  > > > hope
    >  > > > that other list members might show restraint in any bidding of
    >  > > > their own.
    >  > > > However, if any list member gets overcome by the lust to possess,
    >  > > > perhaps he
    >  > > > might inform Bill beforehand, and share his technical findings with us
    >  > > > afterwards.
    >  >
    >  > > > George.
    >  >
    >  > > > For those that have yet to look up this item on ebay, it's at-
    >  >
    >  > > >http://cgi.ebay.ca/ASTRONOMIC-CALCULATOR-SEXTANT-
    >  > > > theodolite_W0QQitemZ190265697439QQcmdZViewItem?
    >  > > > hash=item190265697439&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1215%7C66%
    >  > > > 3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318
    >  >
    >  > > > and to see the original 1950 patent, look up Google Patents 2,519,532.
    >  >
    >  > > > contact George Huxtable, now at geo...@hux.me.uk
    >  > > > or at +44 1865 820222 (from UK, 01865 820222)
    >  > > > or at 1 Sandy Lane, Southmoor, Abingdon, Oxon OX13 5HX, UK.- Hide quoted text -
    >  >
    >
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