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Re: Calculated Altitudes for Lunars
From: Bruce Stark
Date: 2002 Oct 26, 21:01 EDT
From: Bruce Stark
Date: 2002 Oct 26, 21:01 EDT
To the best of my knowledge, George, Bill, Herbert and I are in complete agreement on three points: (1) Calculated altitudes are perfectly acceptable for clearing lunar distances. (2) One calculation does it for most practical work, as long as you go about it the right way. (3) The procedures I've posted for calculating altitudes are not new. They are essentially the same as the one used from the 1760s on up to the last half of the nineteenth century. As I see it, Herbert's comments on George's and Bill's recent postings have nothing to do with this; they have to do with whether or not Bill and George understand how the elements of the problem fit together. If you read only the excerpts he's taken, and taken exception to, you can understand his concern. But I believe if you put those excerpts back where they came from and read them in context you'll see that George and Bill do, in fact, understand how the elements fit. This has been a good thread, and it may lead into another good one. Someone (was it Henry Ford?) is supposed to have said "History is bunk." Given the present state of the history of navigation, I find that hard to dispute. George pointed out a while back that in order to understand what the old navigators were doing, and why, you have to understand their mindset. In another posting he mentioned that Cotter skated around a question having to do with the way the old navigators worked with time and longitude. I read a good bit of Cotter's A History of Nautical Astronomy a decade or so ago, and learned a lot. But I did get the impression he hadn't fully grasped the old view of time, and thus the logic holding the system together. If Dava Sobel or her advisors had understood the navigation of those days, and why it had to be the way it was, her book wouldn't have been constructed on the framework of a trite dramatic device. Bruce