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    Re: C.Plath and SNO
    From: Bill Morris
    Date: 2009 Feb 4, 18:14 -0800

    
    
    On Feb 5, 12:32 pm, Alexandre E Eremenko 
    wrote:
    > Dear Engineer,
    >
    > Thanks for your interesting reply. Let me add few comments
    > and questions.
    >
    > 1. It is hard to understand how could SNO-M be produced
    > on confiscated machinery. C. Plath was made in Hamburg.
    > Hamburg never was in the Soviet occupation zone.
    > It is true that they took some Freiberger machinery and
    > developed SNO-T as a Friberger clone, but there is a lot
    > of difference between Freiberger and SNO-T, even the
    > telescope fork does not match.
    
    The Plath and Weems website states :"At the end of WWII, the company
    almost disappeared when the Allied Forces dismantled the factory due
    to the prohibition of shipbuilding in Germany."
    
    While Hamburg was not in the Soviet occupation zone it was only about
    40 km away and it is a natural inference that dies and machinery found
    their way into the Soviet sphere, but see your comment about
    licensing.
    
    The early Freibergers look just like SNO-Ts. Then the release catch
    moved to the front and the bracket on the frame for the telescope
    exchanged the female vee for a male vee. Finally, the bracket was
    dispensed with and a flat and male vee was cast as one with the frame.
    The initial brackets would fit a variety of sextants, including the
    SNO-M and some Tamayas.
    
    > If SNO-M is indeed a C. Plath clone,
    > it was probably licensed
    > from the Gremans in 1930-s when the Soviets imported a lot
    > of technology from Germany.
    > Do you know when production of SNO-T started?
    
    No, but it would be interesting to find out. The cases have a placard
    with the year, serial number and weight. May we perhaps hear from
    readers about their SNO-Ms years of manufacture? Mine is s/n 51282 of
    1966.
    
    I wonder if Tamaya were also licensed, as some of the Tamayas look
    like Plaths in detail.
    >
    > The machinery taken by reparations could
    > arrive only in 1945.
    >
    > 2. I have pictures of several C. Plaths of this type from
    > the same seller. All certificates look like computer-printed
    > forms filled with nonsense, the certificates are definitely
    > fake. But on the sextants themselves,
    > I am still inclined to think that
    > they are likely made by adding C. Plath arms to the SNO
    > frames.
    
    If you are sure the certificates are fake, then the instruments
    themselves must come under suspicion. We need information from owners
    of Kriegsmarine Plaths of impeccable provenance.
    
    There is, by the way, absolutely nothing wrong with the quality and
    workmanship of the SNO-M. It is not a "cheap knock off" except perhaps
    in the sense that labout costs were low...
    
    Bill Morris
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