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Re: Buckley the Navigator
From: Peter Fogg
Date: 2008 Mar 6, 19:47 +1100
From: Peter Fogg
Date: 2008 Mar 6, 19:47 +1100
Fair crack of the whip, Greg, it was a magazine article !
And quite an undertaking; to try and instruct a practical method of cel nav within a few magazine pages, but I think Mr Buckley Junior made a fair enough fist of it, all things considered. He sets out how to obtain two LOPs from obs of the sun with a few hours interval, leading to a fix. Good basic stuff.
Nothing to stop someone encouraged by that from delving further into the subject, if sufficiently interested. You have to remember that for generations of sailors there was probably not much interest in the subject as such, rather a great practical need to be able to navigate, and that people have crossed oceans using only sun sights, altogether successfully.
Greg R. wrote:
> "Finding Your Position"
Which, of course, tends to prove my earlier point about his other
"tutelage" on celnav lacking in substance (at least in my opinion). And
only someone like Buckley would take us on a roundabout detour of 8
introductory paragraphs before finally getting on with the main
topic... ;-)
I could also nitpick several other areas of his article (which by my
reading is only a gloss-over of celnav techniques at best) - the
suggestion H.O. 249 is only used with the Air Almanac vs. the Nautical
Almanac(?), the term Hs is introduced but never really defined (except
maybe peripherally from the context), etc. etc.
And just like the video, lots of pompous (and extraneous) verbiage but
not a whole lot of useful information - especially for a beginner, as
this article purports to be written for. As someone who's familiar with
various celnav techniques the article made sense to me (though it could
have been written with a LOT simpler language), but I'd never consider
using this as a reference for a beginner-level class.
--
GregR
--- Peter Fogg <piterr11@gmail.com> wrote:
> Here is a link:
> http://cumulus.hillsdale.edu:8080/buckley/Standard/search/field.html
> from which Buckley's
> "Finding Your Position" subtitled
> "From sun sight to plotting board, here is a system of celestial
> navigation
> that brings even math-class dropouts home to port"
> can be accessed, in PDF format.
>
> >
>
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And quite an undertaking; to try and instruct a practical method of cel nav within a few magazine pages, but I think Mr Buckley Junior made a fair enough fist of it, all things considered. He sets out how to obtain two LOPs from obs of the sun with a few hours interval, leading to a fix. Good basic stuff.
Nothing to stop someone encouraged by that from delving further into the subject, if sufficiently interested. You have to remember that for generations of sailors there was probably not much interest in the subject as such, rather a great practical need to be able to navigate, and that people have crossed oceans using only sun sights, altogether successfully.
Greg R. wrote:
> "Finding Your Position"
Which, of course, tends to prove my earlier point about his other
"tutelage" on celnav lacking in substance (at least in my opinion). And
only someone like Buckley would take us on a roundabout detour of 8
introductory paragraphs before finally getting on with the main
topic... ;-)
I could also nitpick several other areas of his article (which by my
reading is only a gloss-over of celnav techniques at best) - the
suggestion H.O. 249 is only used with the Air Almanac vs. the Nautical
Almanac(?), the term Hs is introduced but never really defined (except
maybe peripherally from the context), etc. etc.
And just like the video, lots of pompous (and extraneous) verbiage but
not a whole lot of useful information - especially for a beginner, as
this article purports to be written for. As someone who's familiar with
various celnav techniques the article made sense to me (though it could
have been written with a LOT simpler language), but I'd never consider
using this as a reference for a beginner-level class.
--
GregR
--- Peter Fogg <piterr11@gmail.com> wrote:
> Here is a link:
> http://cumulus.hillsdale.edu:8080/buckley/Standard/search/field.html
> from which Buckley's
> "Finding Your Position" subtitled
> "From sun sight to plotting board, here is a system of celestial
> navigation
> that brings even math-class dropouts home to port"
> can be accessed, in PDF format.
>
> >
>
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